Gametyme Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 I grew up on East Texas football. I played at Lufkin with Dez Bryant and Jorvorskie Lane and I've played against some really good players like Chase Daniel, Mike Goodson and Brandon Pettigrew. I have a really good understanding of the landscape of Texas HS football. With that said I'm probably going to get crushed by DevilDog and that's ok we just have different opinions on small school football. I will agree Newton pound for pound could make the case for being #1 in Texas but Nationally I have no idea how you could prove that because it's so different how other states operate even with there public schools. With that said there is no way Newton or Carthage could compete with legitimate teams a class above them. Once you start to make the jump from 4A to 5A and 6A it gets extremely deep really fast. They're great where they're at and that's ok. Carthage didn't pile up state championships until they dropped down to 3A now known as 4A and hadn't they not dropped down they would most certainly be at 0 championships right now. They will even rack up more now that they dropped to 4A division 2. To their credit they dropped down and became a dynasty. The only team to ever move up in Texas in recent memory and dominate was Southlake Carroll. They immediately won a title and have single handily been the reason Lufkin didn't become a dynasty early 2000's. We would had won 4 instead of 1. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 7/16/2018 at 2:25 AM, DevilDog said: I will show you how special this litttle team is. Of the top 25 players in all of bEast texas. No. 1, 5, 7, 21, All are from Newton, That would include Longview, Lufkin and all the others down to Beaumont. 3 of the top 10 players in all of bEast Texas are from Newton. And this is just the 2019 class they have more for 2020. The Newton Tigers. It's playoff time which means it's silly season in Texas. I was reminded of such today which made me curious as to what happened to that bEast Texas school Newton and their collection of stars from 2018. As usual the conclusion is that they sucked. Tamauzia Brown - #1 player in bEast Texas! Committed to TCU. Actually signed with Tyler Junior College. Current whereabouts? Unknown. https://247sports.com/Player/Tamauzia-Brown-94118/#timeline James Sylvester - Signed with Baylor. Played zero snaps. Transferred to Stephen F. Austin. https://sfajacks.com/sports/football/roster/james-sylvester/3747 Darwin Barlow - Signed with TCU. Played 13 games. Ran for 527 yards and 5 TDs. Transferred to USC. Has played in 7 games. Has run for 185 yards and 2 TDs. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/darwin-barlow-1.html Josh Foster - Signed with TCU. Has played in 18 games. Has 51 tackles and 1 INT. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/josh-foster-1.html Caiden Walker - Signed with Stephen F. Austin. Quit football before enrolling in school. Decided to try football again and signed with Tyler Junior College. Current whereabouts? Unknown. https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/hs/article/Former-Newton-lineman-gets-second-chance-at-14089775.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 7/16/2018 at 2:38 AM, DevilDog said: This team is loaded. Love me some bEast Texas Friday night Football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: It's playoff time which means it's silly season in Texas. I was reminded of such today which made me curious as to what happened to that bEast Texas school Newton and their collection of stars from 2018. As usual the conclusion is that they sucked. Tamauzia Brown - #1 player in bEast Texas! Committed to TCU. Actually signed with Tyler Junior College. Current whereabouts? Unknown. https://247sports.com/Player/Tamauzia-Brown-94118/#timeline James Sylvester - Signed with Baylor. Played zero snaps. Transferred to Stephen F. Austin. https://sfajacks.com/sports/football/roster/james-sylvester/3747 Darwin Barlow - Signed with TCU. Played 13 games. Ran for 527 yards and 5 TDs. Transferred to USC. Has played in 7 games. Has run for 185 yards and 2 TDs. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/darwin-barlow-1.html Josh Foster - Signed with TCU. Has played in 18 games. Has 51 tackles and 1 INT. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/josh-foster-1.html Caiden Walker - Signed with Stephen F. Austin. Quit football before enrolling in school. Decided to try football again and signed with Tyler Junior College. Current whereabouts? Unknown. https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/hs/article/Former-Newton-lineman-gets-second-chance-at-14089775.php Does your whacked out theory work for other states or only Texas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, RedZone said: Does your whacked out theory work for other states or only Texas? My totally demonstrated truth works for any crappy overhyped small school that gets pimped. It just so happens that Louisiana and Texas fans are the most likely to overhype crappy teams. People like you and your Texas cousins hate when claims made years ago are lined up against the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: My totally demonstrated truth works for any crappy overhyped small school that gets pimped. It just so happens that Louisiana and Texas fans are the most likely to overhype crappy teams. People like you and your Texas cousins hate when claims made years ago are lined up against the truth. So If I showed you small crappy Louisiana teams that had 4-5 players do BIG things in college and even in the NFL you would be forced to say that team was good, right? Nope, you would come up with some other whacked out theory to shit on someone. Your game is old, but I do appreciate your new and creative efforts. After all, it is 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champa Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Let Crosby make it to the state title game in 5A, and you're gonna be hearing a lot about how badass Carthage is. The Bulldogs beat Crosby early in the year, albeit not by very much. Only watched them decimate my team (Silsbee) about half a dozen times these past few years. We could of had them back in 2017. Not that I'm mad or anything 🤣 I think Newton has a good chance to go far this year. Still don't think they're as good as the Barlow years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: It's playoff time which means it's silly season in Texas. I was reminded of such today which made me curious as to what happened to that bEast Texas school Newton and their collection of stars from 2018. As usual the conclusion is that they sucked. Tamauzia Brown - #1 player in bEast Texas! Committed to TCU. Actually signed with Tyler Junior College. Current whereabouts? Unknown. https://247sports.com/Player/Tamauzia-Brown-94118/#timeline James Sylvester - Signed with Baylor. Played zero snaps. Transferred to Stephen F. Austin. https://sfajacks.com/sports/football/roster/james-sylvester/3747 Darwin Barlow - Signed with TCU. Played 13 games. Ran for 527 yards and 5 TDs. Transferred to USC. Has played in 7 games. Has run for 185 yards and 2 TDs. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/darwin-barlow-1.html Josh Foster - Signed with TCU. Has played in 18 games. Has 51 tackles and 1 INT. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/josh-foster-1.html Caiden Walker - Signed with Stephen F. Austin. Quit football before enrolling in school. Decided to try football again and signed with Tyler Junior College. Current whereabouts? Unknown. https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/hs/article/Former-Newton-lineman-gets-second-chance-at-14089775.php You waited three years just to say this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 58 minutes ago, RedZone said: So If I showed you small crappy Louisiana teams that had 4-5 players do BIG things in college and even in the NFL you would be forced to say that team was good, right? No, I'd be forced to say that the players you pimped actually achieved something. Kudos. But Newton is straight garbage. Supposedly they had 5 D1s. But only 3 of them actually signed with D1s. Only 2 of them actually played a snap. And only 1 of them is still at the school that they signed with. Yet we were told that they were "loaded." Puhlease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 58 minutes ago, RedZone said: Nope, you would come up with some other whacked out theory to shit on someone. My whacked out theory (again, my claims are *true*) would be to laud those players. Having 4-5 D1 players does not make you a good team. As Newton proves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, RedZone said: Your game is old, but I do appreciate your new and creative efforts. After all, it is 2021. RedZone really hates the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: You waited three years just to say this? No, I said this 3 years ago. I'm just showing the receipts to clowns like DevilDog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: No, I said this 3 years ago. I'm just showing the receipts to clowns like DevilDog. Okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted November 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 When factoring school enrollment at Newton roughly 280 public 9th grade thru 12th grade both boys and girls any real HS football junkies should appreciate what they do. They are elite nationally when compared to other public schools of similar size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Texasball said: When factoring school enrollment at Newton roughly 280 public 9th grade thru 12th grade both boys and girls any real HS football junkies should appreciate what they do. They are elite nationally when compared to other public schools of similar size. Clowns like you play the pound-for-pound game because you can't make any headway otherwise. Everybody knew this at the time but you and others have to pretend that they're actually good until a few years pass and you're forced to admit the truth. Having Stephen F. Austin and Tyler Junior College washouts isn't that impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted November 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Clowns like you play the pound-for-pound game because you can't make any headway otherwise. Everybody knew this at the time but you and others have to pretend that they're actually good until a few years pass and you're forced to admit the truth. Having Stephen F. Austin and Tyler Junior College washouts isn't that impressive. Your idiot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Texasball said: Your idiot! Irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gametyme Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Texasball said: When factoring school enrollment at Newton roughly 280 public 9th grade thru 12th grade both boys and girls any real HS football junkies should appreciate what they do. They are elite nationally when compared to other public schools of similar size. Not to mention also in the middle of no where. Ill never understand how people cant comprehend pound for pound. These are the same people that want Khabib to fight Jon Jones 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Gametyme said: Not to mention also in the middle of no where. Ill never understand how people cant comprehend pound for pound. These are the same people that want Khabib to fight Jon Jones 😂 As the saying goes the only thing that matters is what a man can do and what a man can’t do pound for pound and per capita are for people who need to feel better about themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gametyme Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Ararar said: As the saying goes the only thing that matters is what a man can do and what a man can’t do pound for pound and per capita are for people who need to feel better about themselves Lol this proves my point. It doesn't take rocket science to understand Jon Jones would kick Khabib ass but does that mean Khabib isnt a killer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gametyme said: Lol this proves my point. It doesn't take rocket science to understand Jon Jones would kick Khabib ass but does that mean Khabib isnt a killer? It proves my point who’s he a killer against? either he can or he cant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gametyme Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 Just now, Ararar said: It proves my point who’s he a killer against? either he can or he cant I bet the Kansas City Chiefs could beat Mater Dei 100-0. That's what you're saying when you dismiss weight class. Either Mater Dei can or cant beat the Chiefs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Ararar said: pound for pound and per capita are for people who need to feel better about themselves People who cannot comprehend per capita are normally large state fanboys who are filled with excuses. Just for the record. Where are you from arrraraa? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Gametyme said: I bet the Kansas City Chiefs could beat Mater Dei 100-0. That's what you're saying when you dismiss weight class. Either Mater Dei can or cant beat the Chiefs? Yes I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 54 minutes ago, RedZone said: People who cannot comprehend per capita are normally large state fanboys who are filled with excuses. Just for the record. Where are you from arrraraa? And on cue the one who most needs to feel better about himself pops his head up😂 my avatar says where I’m from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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