NJ2015 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, aZjimbo said: But they are not 2-2. They are 1-3. You wanted Toal out. You got it. A once proud program is in free fall right now. That's 2 years in a row at 1-3 after 4 games. Who was HC last year? It isn't just coaching. It's more of a significant drop off in talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2015 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: I feel more for PC, my high school. Teams like BG and DLS are also down. Everything's cyclical. It's life. And it's only hsfb in the grand scheme of things. DBP is a better school now than it was 5-10 years ago. And that's all that matters. Next time in town, take a tour. You'll be amazed. The irony is the school got better in the last 10-15 years in large part because of the football. The national recognition on the gridiron attracted more boys who not only played football but other sports too. The school was able to be a little more selective with admissions and it became a virtuous circle with all aspects of the school improving. Now they have a shiny new building and the best campus among the Catholics (excluding Delbarton) and that will continue to attract students. But I wouldn't discount the impact that a bad football program might have on future classes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: I feel more for PC, my high school. Teams like BG and DLS are also down. Everything's cyclical. It's life. And it's only hsfb in the grand scheme of things. DBP is a better school now than it was 5-10 years ago. And that's all that matters. Next time in town, take a tour. You'll be amazed. If you say so. Sounds like many excuses but hey it's only HS football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 34 minutes ago, NJ2015 said: eliminated the 8th grade hold back in2015. So anyone left back not admitted or only a kid left back in 8th grade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, NJ2015 said: That's 2 years in a row at 1-3 after 4 games. Who was HC last year? It isn't just coaching. It's more of a significant drop off in talent True. But when the present coach wins 300+ games, 2 MNC's, numerous national rankings, 9 state titles, 46 game win streak and all the rest then we'll talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2015 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: So anyone left back not admitted or only a kid left back in 8th grade? My understanding is they have a strict prohibition on the 8th grade pink shirt. If you keep your kid home at age 5 and enroll him in kindergarten at 6 yo, I'm guessing that will be ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2015 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, aZjimbo said: True. But when the present coach wins 300+ games, 2 MNC's, numerous national rankings, 9 state titles, 46 game win streak and all the rest then we'll talk. Oh ok. We can't talk about 2016 or 2017 without talking about the past or knowing the future. I don't think anyone is disputing GT's coaching chops. He was and still is the measuring standard. But even he stopped winning championships every year when less and less talent was coming to and staying at Bosco. I didn't want him to leave. But in a weird way, he probably got out at the right time as the next few years will be rough at Bosco and probably would have been below his own standard had he stayed. The cupboard is pretty bare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2015 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: DBP still accepts "pink shirts." Just not those that are homeschooled, which was becoming a fad under the prior regime. How/where do they go to repeat 8th grade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJSportsfan10 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, NJ2015 said: Oh ok. We can't talk about 2016 or 2017 without talking about the past or knowing the future. I don't think anyone is disputing GT's coaching chops. He was and still is the measuring standard. But even he stopped winning championships every year when less and less talent was coming to and staying at Bosco. I didn't want him to leave. But in a weird way, he probably got out at the right time as the next few years will be rough at Bosco and probably would have been below his own standard had he stayed. The cupboard is pretty bare I'm gonna disagree with you on this point. Bosco is starting almost 10 sophomores, including The QB and RB. The talent is there, just needs to mature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2015 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, NJSportsfan10 said: I'm gonna disagree with you on this point. Bosco is starting almost 10 sophomores, including The QB and RB. The talent is there, just needs to mature. I hope you are right on the young talent, especially in the trenches. Best RB without a line would be tragic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, NJ2015 said: How/where do they go to repeat 8th grade? DePaul catholic .... is really the only place in the vicinity .... we wanted a prep program at SJR but the archdiocese would not allow it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2015 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, SJR89 said: DePaul catholic .... is really the only place in the vicinity .... we wanted a prep program at SJR but the archdiocese would not allow it There's really no legitimate reason for it. You hit puberty when you hit puberty. Life isn't always fair. But hey if Mommy and Daddy want to spend a little more Green to protect junior and give him a chance at HS glory, Godspeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2015 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Smart man, right here. Hard to compete w the SFAs and DPCs of the world w so many sophs. Having a weak junior class won't help next season either. Also, DBP has given up 46 fourth quarter points this season. Killer. What happened to all that talk earlier about how good the senior-laden line was/is? Granted, I only saw the SFA game. But man were they overmatched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 I gotta give credit where credit is due.. @GardenStateBaller Called this about DePaul even before preason... i did not want to hear it then but I guess it's new times and time to start respecting are Passaic little brothers.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2015 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, LiberalDonaldTrump said: I gotta give credit where credit is due.. @GardenStateBaller Called this about DePaul even before preason... i did not want to hear it then but I guess it's new times and time to start respecting are Passaic little brothers.. The senior group had DePaul went undefeated as freshmen and stayed together at DePaul. They too benefited from the closing of Paterson Catholic. If the coaching catches up with the talent, they can be damn good most years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 53 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: DePaul, Saddle River Day and the local parochial elementary schools are the most popular destinations for those in northern Bergen County. Easy peasy. Only one Catholic grade school I know even takes 8th transfers and that's my alma mater our lady of mercy .... St. Paul's in Ramsey is a no on that and repeat 8th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elKakador Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 20 hours ago, SJR89 said: just a Guess...DB is a cornered animal right now...think they come out and smack DPC in the first Quarter like old school Bosco under toal......... Hey, good call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elKakador Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: DBP had all the momentum up until the safety. Next thing you know, 22-0 run to end the game. Momentum??? They trailed the whole game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingwill Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, elKakador said: Momentum??? They trailed the whole game! Yeah but it was 22-17 at one point.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, elKakador said: Hey, good call! hey even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in a while...lol....just thought they had some mental toughness to gut it out...guess not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJSportsfan10 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Smart man, right here. Hard to compete w the SFAs and DPCs of the world w so many sophs. Having a weak junior class won't help next season either. Also, DBP has given up 46 fourth quarter points this season. Killer. Very rarely are sophomores physically ready to compete at this level of high school football. At this point in time that's Bosco problem, a solid senior class that is doing their best but due to a lack of depth in the junior class, the sophomores are getting thrown into the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taojoe Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 hours ago, NJ2015 said: Hell he had the same record at this time last year and that included a home loss to a bad Moeller team. Not sure the record would be much different than it is now. Maybe the team doesn't collapse against Byrnes. I'll give him that. But is this product 4 games in much worse than the 2016 edition that got blown out at AHP and SJP and lost at home to Moeller, all with a senior QB considered best in the division? Heuser has made it more difficult to bring in Football only students and eliminated the 8th grade hold back in2015. You have been seeing the impact the last 2 years Absolute truth. And regarding Byrnes, maybe they don't collapse after 3 1/2 quarters, but under Toal they may very well not have been ahead after 3 1/2 quarters. As great as he had been, he had clearly become a dinosaur and needed to move on. Just wish he had come to realize that on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elKakador Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Kingwill said: Yeah but it was 22-17 at one point.. And it was 42-17 at another... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taojoe Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Drummer61 said: .As Jimbo correctly said is that Bosco has their new young and innovative coach.. . He said, his text voice dripping with sarcasm. So you don't like the word innovative? How about up-to-date on current coaching best practices? 5+ years ago, Partridge had computers on the sidelines during games and practices giving him video of what had just happened on the field. Think Toal would have ever had that, or if one of his assistants did, that he would have paid any attention to it? Doubtful IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommygun58 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 DBP needs to go after the Old Tappan coach.Running clock vs Wayne Hills in the beginning of the 3rd quarter.WH = 0 pts.OT =35 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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