ECHS05 Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Desoto tier 1 after their impressive 41-36 win over Dallas Jesuit... sammys emotions getting the better of him in that 1st post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 hour ago, old_e said: Sammy, so your saying that SJB will beat Chaminade by at least 31 points. Also, I think you meant Serra of San Mateo. There is no Serra in San Jose. Serra of San Mateo got smoked by St Mary's in the first game of the season. FIFY Nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: When you keep your Toupe stuck on during a stiff breeze? You dirty Sammy. How'd you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 39 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Salty about Mountain Pointe? I could care less. Oh I get it they lost to an almighty California team. No that shit doesn't bother me. I give credit where it is due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 hours ago, nptb17 said: Colerain would blow the doors off of Desoto any year. Teams from OOS don't fair will against Colerain's option attack. No they wouldn't, there is not a team in OH that would blow their doors off. Beat them? Possibly but not blow them out any year. You do realize Desoto beat much better versions of Trinity teams with ease and shut down their run game. colerain struggled a few years ago with Cocoa for crying out loud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Horsefly said: No they wouldn't, there is not a team in OH that would blow their doors off. Beat them? Possibly but not blow them out any year. You do realize Desoto beat much better versions of Trinity teams with ease and shut down their run game. colerain struggled a few years ago with Cocoa for crying out loud. First, Trinity's run game is nothing like Colerains run game. Trinity typically has better offensive lineman than Colerain does but their run game is simple where as Colerain's option comes at you from multiple sets. Second Desoto offense would play right into what Colerain shuts down and that is trying to go over the top or beat them with athleticism. Colerain is not one of the GCL schools where they don't have great athletes in the secondary. Colerain has big athletes all throughout the secondary and are as coached up as they come. Second Cocoa plays better defense than Desoto. Cocoa plays better defense than everyone in Texas for that matter excluding Katy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elKakador Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: BC was not impressive. They struggled a bit against a not very good team with a small roster 48pts., not impressive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Cocoa plays better defense than a lot of teams in Ohio as well so don't take it as a big slight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalmetteowl Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Evangel from Shreveport... Tier 2 or 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalmetteowl Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: 3 IMO 1 or 2 if they beat Allen? (Don't laugh, ECA defense is stacked. This ain't the 90s anymore when they had the Bootys and Durons and Brock Berlin) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: There has been discussion lately about teams being on certain tiers, with speculation on how large the gaps are between tiers. After 2 weeks of football we can now begin to place the teams on tiers. Based on much research via pouring over recruiting tapes, watching the teams live, and good gut feelings, I now submit the tiers. (not listing all the Texas teams due to being unfamiliar). This is not an attempt to list EVERY team, but only selected teams, any you guys can submit nominees to add to the tiers Tier 1: Can compete with anyone in the Country Mater Dei, SJB, STA, SJC, DLS, De Matha, SJR, BG, Allen, De Soto, Cen10*, IMG *healthy QB. Will adjust pending outcome of Dr. report Tier 2: Won't stay within 21 points of Tier 1 Grayson, Bergen Catholic, OLU, Mission Viejo, Colerain, St. X, Bingham, Chandler, SFA, AHP, Lowndes, Trinity*, John Curtis, Union Tier 3: would be -10 vs Tier 2 teams DBP, Jserra, Servite, Santa Margarita, Colquitt County, SJP, Poly, Mountain Pointe. Miami Central, C-HIll, East. St. Mary's, Chaminade, Byrnes, Punahu, Serra, Cartersville Tier 4: would be -10 vs. Tier 3 teams Folsom, Valdosta, De Paul, Paraclete SOOOOOOO, only four teams in the entire state of Georgia, are getting ANY LUUUUUUUUUUUUV from you? What about Buford, Carrollton, and Tucker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 43 minutes ago, chalmetteowl said: Evangel from Shreveport... Tier 2 or 3? Benefit of the doubt...added to Tier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 36 minutes ago, ORabidOne said: SOOOOOOO, only four teams in the entire state of Georgia, are getting ANY LUUUUUUUUUUUUV from you? What about Buford, Carrollton, and Tucker? Added to the list in the appropriate tiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Sammyswordsman said: Added to the list in the appropriate tiers Well, git ready to adjust your tiers still further, when Colquitt whacks Lowends and Gayson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Tier 5!!!! You TOUGH GUYS from Jersey, just be content with playing with yourownselfs, and leave the REAL teams to the main event! As you MAY know, in 2018, the Colquitt County PUBLIC SCHOOL Packers will be attempting to address the pesky issue, of filling six non region slots! In the immortal words of that fine Amuuurican, Tom Bodet of Motel Two, "We'll leave the light on for you!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 33 minutes ago, ORabidOne said: You TOUGH GUYS from Jersey, just be content with playing with yourownselfs, and leave the REAL teams to the main event! As you MAY know, in 2018, the Colquitt County PUBLIC SCHOOL Packers will be attempting to address the pesky issue, of filling six non region slots! In the immortal words of that fine Amuuurican, Tom Bodet of Motel Two, "We'll leave the light on for you!" Please host a NJ team. GSB will make it happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospeeder Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Please host a NJ team. GSB will make it happen FORGET THE GAME! RAB's post should be in the Prep Gridiron hall of fame! I'm laughing so hard, my blood pressure dropped! Glad you're back RAB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gospeeder said: Glad you're back RAB. HAha that won't last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 9 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: There has been discussion lately about teams being on certain tiers, with speculation on how large the gaps are between tiers. After 2 weeks of football we can now begin to place the teams on tiers. Based on much research via pouring over recruiting tapes, watching the teams live, and good gut feelings, I now submit the tiers. (not listing all the Texas teams due to being unfamiliar). This is not an attempt to list EVERY team, but only selected teams, any you guys can submit nominees to add to the tiers Tier 1: Can compete with anyone in the Country Mater Dei, SJB, STA, SJC, DLS, De Matha, SJR, BG, Allen, De Soto, Cen10*, IMG *healthy QB. Will adjust pending outcome of Dr. report Tier 2: Won't stay within 21 points of Tier 1 Grayson, Bergen Catholic, OLU, Mission Viejo, Colerain, St. X, Bingham, Chandler, SFA, AHP, Lowndes, Trinity*, John Curtis, Union, Evangel Christian Tier 3: would be -10 vs Tier 2 teams DBP, Jserra, Servite, Santa Margarita, Colquitt County, SJP, Poly, Mountain Pointe. Miami Central, C-HIll, East. St. Mary's, Chaminade, Byrnes, Punahu, Serra, Cartersville, Buford, Carrolton Tier 4: would be -10 vs. Tier 3 teams Folsom, Valdosta, De Paul, Paraclete, Tucker I like this way of ranking teams. It seems like there are course-grained distinctions reasonable and informed people ((that's (some of) us)) can reliably track even if we can't reliably track more fine-grained distinctions. And we might find broader consensus because of it: we might all agree about who belongs in the top tier, the second tier, etc., even if continue to disagree about who should be no 1 or no 25 etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalmetteowl Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 10 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: 3 IMO JCC and AR in 2 Rummel in 2 is too high... I really don't think there's a LA team in tier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamarfan Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 0:26 PM, nptb17 said: Colerain would blow the doors off of Desoto any year. Teams from OOS don't fair will against Colerain's option attack. Oh really I think Desoto would beat down Coelrain most any years and especially last year. I'm mean Colerain is a good team but I really believe they would never have won the Texas championship even on the their best years. And Texas was the king of the rushing attack up until around 2000 when the run only game became mostly inept in the big picture. I say schedule Allen or Desoto or even SLC. Ohio IMO is equal total to about one of Texas 4 regions. I think Ohio has a Aledo there in Colerain and would challenge for a 5a championship here in Texas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamarfan Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 2:52 PM, nptb17 said: First, Trinity's run game is nothing like Colerains run game. Trinity typically has better offensive lineman than Colerain does but their run game is simple where as Colerain's option comes at you from multiple sets. Second Desoto offense would play right into what Colerain shuts down and that is trying to go over the top or beat them with athleticism. Colerain is not one of the GCL schools where they don't have great athletes in the secondary. Colerain has big athletes all throughout the secondary and are as coached up as they come. Second Cocoa plays better defense than Desoto. Cocoa plays better defense than everyone in Texas for that matter excluding Katy. Your a fool if you think Texas doesn't play defense. Now Trinity is another story it looks like they have turned in to a scrub team now that Lineweaver has left and they don't have any business playing OOS at this time against the best from the nation. I hate to see them ruin the great OOS record that Lineweaver teams built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, Lamarfan said: Your a fool if you think Texas doesn't play defense. Now Trinity is another story it looks like they have turned in to a scrub team now that Lineweaver has left and they don't have any business playing OOS at this time against the best from the nation. I hate to see them ruin the great OOS record that Lineweaver teams built. Texas plays defense... not very well though. Every state plays defense, they have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamarfan Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Well when we went to the high flying offenses it might look like it sometimes. But when Colerain are someone with just an ok offense shows up you will see the defenses of the good teams are very good. Hoover 7 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamarfan Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Texas plays defense... not very well though. Every state plays defense, they have to. I think you know that no state would even come close to Texas by matching 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2 and so on down the list. Most states have a few cheaters at the top that are recruiting far and wide and then nothing a few down the list. Texas is genuine and can play ball far down the list. Texas Pride. ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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