Against t Democracy

[DBP66]

GSB is back ^...new name same B.S...🤡

[Nolebull813]

41 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

GSB is back ^...new name same B.S...🤡

I thought it was @imaGoodBoyNow

[World Citizen]

On 1/30/2022 at 10:28 PM, concha said:

 

Who is being prevented from voting?

 

You are truly the 2nd dumbest person only slightly behind nole.  

[concha]

 

31 minutes ago, World Citizen said:

You are truly the 2nd dumbest person only slightly behind nole.  

 

Apologies for the difficult question. 🤡

 

[Nolebull813]

2 hours ago, World Citizen said:

You are truly the 2nd dumbest person only slightly behind nole.  

How many minorities have you helped get identification cards in the last 5 years? 
 

Hell the last 25 years. And if you can name just one person you took to go get an ID, what was the reasoning that they couldn’t do it themselves? 

[Nolebull813]

So Trump gets some of the highest minority votes for a Republican in 60 years, and the response is to suppress minority votes??? 
 

Jesus that’s a fucking dumbass conspiracy theory if I’ve heard one. 

[World Citizen]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

...and I rest my case.  

[Nolebull813]

2 minutes ago, World Citizen said:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

...and I rest my case.  

You throw out some left wing talking point with no credible evidence other than left wing tabloids, and you rest your case?

Alrighty!!!!

[World Citizen]

3 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

You throw out some left wing talking point with no credible evidence other than left wing tabloids, and you rest your case?

Alrighty!!!!

It doesn't matter what I present as evidence.  You won't even read it and if you did, you would not understand it because you are not smart.  Concha is stupid because he is playing the village idiot by asking "who is being prevented from voting" when a simple google search can answer his disingenuous question.  He knows full well what the arguments are.  You on the other hand will never get that far and will remain an idiot.  You have flatlined and can't grow.  That is just dumb.

[concha]

Just now, World Citizen said:

It doesn't matter what I present as evidence.  You won't even read it and if you did, you would not understand it because you are not smart.  Concha is stupid because he is playing the village idiot by asking "who is being prevented from voting" when a simple google search can answer his disingenuous question.  He knows full well what the arguments are.  You on the other hand will never get that far and will remain an idiot.  You have flatlined and can't grow.  That is just dumb.

 

I've read bullshit.

You don't have anything better?

 

 

[Nolebull813]

12 minutes ago, World Citizen said:

It doesn't matter what I present as evidence.  You won't even read it and if you did, you would not understand it because you are not smart.  Concha is stupid because he is playing the village idiot by asking "who is being prevented from voting" when a simple google search can answer his disingenuous question.  He knows full well what the arguments are.  You on the other hand will never get that far and will remain an idiot.  You have flatlined and can't grow.  That is just dumb.

The only stuff I heard was Democrats are mad they can’t cheat with shady drop boxes, ballot harvesting, mail in ballots and lack of proof of identity. 

What else you got? Minorities are too poor and stupid to get an ID? Nah I don’t buy it you racist piece of shit 

 

[concha]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-georgia-election-distortions-freedom-vote-act-right-john-lewis-jim-crow-new-york-ballot-mail-11642020035

 

Mr. Biden was wrong to say Georgia Republicans passed “new laws designed to suppress your vote, to subvert our elections.” He substituted adjectives for evidence. His claims don’t survive even minimal scrutiny.

The president opened his assault on Georgia GOP legislators by saying “they’re making it harder for you to vote by mail.” He was referring to the new state law that prohibits local officials and private groups from mailing unsolicited absentee-ballot applications.

Previously, Georgia didn’t have a law allowing jurisdictions to mail everyone an absentee ballot application. When counties and political groups did so in 2020 under emergency rules, election officials received numerous multiple applications from the same voters. Georgia moved to end the confusion.

So is Mr. Biden’s claim that making voters request an absentee-voting application rather than mailing one to everyone “voter suppression” accurate? Let’s compare Georgia with a liberal state, New York.

Like Georgia, New York requires people seeking to vote absentee-by-mail to request an application and doesn’t mail applications to everyone automatically. Yet while Georgia allows anyone to vote by mail, New Yorkers can’t vote absentee by mail unless they are out of town on Election Day, ill, disabled, taking care of someone who is ill or disabled, in a Veterans Health Administration hospital, or in jail for a nonfelony offense. Last fall, New Yorkers voted down a constitutional amendment to liberalize the state’s laws on vote-by-mail by 55% 45%. So when will the president travel to Times Square to condemn New York as an existential threat to American democracy?

The president also whacked Georgia for setting standards for the drop boxes where voters can deposit absentee ballots in lieu of mailing them. The state’s new law requires every county to provide a box (with additional ones for every 100,000 citizens), standardizes the hours during which they can be used, and requires boxes to be continually monitored. Mr. Biden called this “undemocratic.” Yet in the blue states of Delaware, Illinois, New Jersey and New York, which don’t have laws regulating drop boxes, you’d expect more unequal treatment and abuse. Areas that are unfavorable to the party in power may receive shorter hours or fewer drop boxes. By comparison, as a protection against manipulation and unfair treatment, all of Georgia is treated the same.

Mr. Biden then railed against the Georgia law prohibiting groups from providing food and beverages to voters within 150 feet of a polling location. “That’s not America!” the president exclaimed. Actually, it is. Almost every state has similar provisions forbidding electioneering near polling places. It’s banned within 50 feet in Mr. Biden’s Delaware and 100 feet in California, Illinois, New Jersey and New York. Was it the extra 50 or 100 feet that caused the president to label Georgia a hotbed of Jim Crow 2.0 “election subversion”?

[FreeBird]

Gentlemen World citizen is what we call Radicalized, Don’t bother , there’s no getting thru to him

[DBP66]

14 minutes ago, FreeBird said:

Gentlemen World citizen is what we call Radicalized, Don’t bother , there’s no getting thru to him

says GSB ^....the #1 Trump fan...radicalized?...LOL..like the Trumpers who stormed the capital....🤡

[FreeBird]

18 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

says GSB ^....the #1 Trump fan...radicalized?...LOL..like the Trumpers who stormed the capital....🤡

Lol ur still obsessing over the Maga field trip to the capital, wish you cared and had this energy about crimes the other 364 days in the year 😢 

[DBP66]

43 minutes ago, FreeBird said:

Lol ur still obsessing over the Maga field trip to the capital, wish you cared and had this energy about crimes the other 364 days in the year 😢 

don't you have some games to arrange?.....🤡

[Atticus Finch]

On 2/3/2022 at 6:38 PM, concha said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-georgia-election-distortions-freedom-vote-act-right-john-lewis-jim-crow-new-york-ballot-mail-11642020035

Mr. Biden was wrong to say Georgia Republicans passed “new laws designed to suppress your vote, to subvert our elections.” He substituted adjectives for evidence. His claims don’t survive even minimal scrutiny.

The president opened his assault on Georgia GOP legislators by saying “they’re making it harder for you to vote by mail.” He was referring to the new state law that prohibits local officials and private groups from mailing unsolicited absentee-ballot applications.

Previously, Georgia didn’t have a law allowing jurisdictions to mail everyone an absentee ballot application. When counties and political groups did so in 2020 under emergency rules, election officials received numerous multiple applications from the same voters. Georgia moved to end the confusion.

So is Mr. Biden’s claim that making voters request an absentee-voting application rather than mailing one to everyone “voter suppression” accurate? Let’s compare Georgia with a liberal state, New York.

Like Georgia, New York requires people seeking to vote absentee-by-mail to request an application and doesn’t mail applications to everyone automatically. Yet while Georgia allows anyone to vote by mail, New Yorkers can’t vote absentee by mail unless they are out of town on Election Day, ill, disabled, taking care of someone who is ill or disabled, in a Veterans Health Administration hospital, or in jail for a nonfelony offense. Last fall, New Yorkers voted down a constitutional amendment to liberalize the state’s laws on vote-by-mail by 55% 45%. So when will the president travel to Times Square to condemn New York as an existential threat to American democracy?

The president also whacked Georgia for setting standards for the drop boxes where voters can deposit absentee ballots in lieu of mailing them. The state’s new law requires every county to provide a box (with additional ones for every 100,000 citizens), standardizes the hours during which they can be used, and requires boxes to be continually monitored. Mr. Biden called this “undemocratic.” Yet in the blue states of Delaware, Illinois, New Jersey and New York, which don’t have laws regulating drop boxes, you’d expect more unequal treatment and abuse. Areas that are unfavorable to the party in power may receive shorter hours or fewer drop boxes. By comparison, as a protection against manipulation and unfair treatment, all of Georgia is treated the same.

Mr. Biden then railed against the Georgia law prohibiting groups from providing food and beverages to voters within 150 feet of a polling location. “That’s not America!” the president exclaimed. Actually, it is. Almost every state has similar provisions forbidding electioneering near polling places. It’s banned within 50 feet in Mr. Biden’s Delaware and 100 feet in California, Illinois, New Jersey and New York. Was it the extra 50 or 100 feet that caused the president to label Georgia a hotbed of Jim Crow 2.0 “election subversion”?

I love how concha thinks an editorial by Karl Rove printed in the Wall Street Journal is either honest or persuasive. 

The bill makes it harder to vote as it was intended to do.

Explainer: Big changes under Georgia’s new election law

DROP BOXES

The law limits each county to one drop box per 100,000 active registered voters or one for each early voting location, whichever number is smaller. The change will lead to a sharp drop from the 330 drop boxes used across the state in November.

The biggest impact will be felt in the most populous counties. For instance, the total number of drop boxes in Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett -- the four counties which encompass and surround Atlanta, and which contain more than a third of the state's Black population -- will shrink by three-fourths to 23, based on the latest voter data.

Moreover, the law says drop boxes must be placed inside early voting sites or at elections offices, and that they can only be used during early voting hours. In 2020, by comparison, drop boxes could be placed outdoors and made available to voters 24 hours a day and through the evening of Election Day.

ABSENTEE BALLOTS

Previously, a voter could request an absentee ballot as early as six months prior to an election and up until the Friday before an election. The new law cuts the window by more than half to 67 days.

The law will also require voters for the first time to provide proof of identify when requesting an absentee ballot.

More than 272,000 registered voters don't have a driver's license or state ID on file with election officials; most are Black and live in Democratic-leaning counties, according to an analysis of voter data by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

[concha]

 

None of this prevents anyone from voting.

And Georgia laws are in areas more open than in many blue states.

The high number of drop boxes were an anomaly in the scramble to do the election under Covid.  Drop boxes still exist and are available to all. The Dems don't like the idea of the increased security involved.

And complaints about a 2+ month window for absentee voting? TWO MONTHS+? Seriously? 🤣

And, sorry, but voter ID is favored by the vast majority of citizens, including a majority of Dems. It is common sense. And in Georgia, voter IDs are free of cost.

Also, the number of voters with "no ID" is actually 154k. And that number is for people who don't have an ID linked to their voter registration. They may actually have ID. Of those 154k, 93k never bother to vote anyway. 

Heaven forbid that people actually go get an ID (free!) to vote for the guy with the nuclear football following him around, right?  Nearly 2/3 of Democrats even recognize the stupidity of the anti voter ID crowd.

 

Per The Savannah Morning news:

How Georgia’s voting law works

The 154,411 Georgians without ID numbers on file are disproportionately Black voters, according to an AJC comparison of the state’s voter registration and ID lists.te Account

Black voters make up 58% of those who lack ID linked to their registrations while accounting for 30% of the state’s registered voters.

Many voters who don’t have ID numbers on file also have never cast a ballot. About 93,000 of the registered voters without an ID number have no record of ever voting in Georgia, according to state election data.

 

[Nolebull813]

Why isn’t Stacey Abrams and Canes in Georgia helping these minorities to obtain IDs? 
 

Seems like you two are more worried about them voting once every 2 years for your leaders than helping them get the proper Identification to get a job or government assistance that could help them the other 364 days. 

[DBP66]

14 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Why isn’t Stacey Abrams and Canes in Georgia helping these minorities to obtain IDs? 
 

Seems like you two are more worried about them voting once every 2 years for your leaders than helping them get the proper Identification to get a job or government assistance that could help them the other 364 days. 

Voter I.D.'s?...In N.Y. you show your picture ID only when you register to vote the first time...then you don't need to show picture ID in NY at all after that... you only need a signature verification and it works in one of the most populous state in the country.

[Nolebull813]

10 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

Voter I.D.'s?...In N.Y. you show your picture ID only when you register to vote the first time...then you don't need to show picture ID in NY at all after that... you only need a signature verification and it works in one of the most populous state in the country.

Voter ID. Common sense says you should have to prove who you are. It’s a pretty simple concept but it works. 
 

The issue is you and people like you want cheat in ballots, left wing harvesting that can toss heavily Republican area drop boxes, illegals voting, dead people voting, and no vetting or checking who’s voting as long as they vote dem. 

[DBP66]

3 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Voter ID. Common sense says you should have to prove who you are. It’s a pretty simple concept but it works. 
 

The issue is you and people like you want cheat in ballots, left wing harvesting that can toss heavily Republican area drop boxes, illegals voting, dead people voting, and no vetting or checking who’s voting as long as they vote dem. 

I just showed you that you don't need picture ID to vote...a signature works. It's been proven. Nothing to argue about here.

You can't give someone a bottle of water in Ga. while on line to vote??..LOL...yea...we all know how much sense that makes and what the true intention of that law is...🙄

[Nolebull813]

21 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

I just showed you that you don't need picture ID to vote...a signature works. It's been proven. Nothing to argue about here.

You can't give someone a bottle of water in Ga. while on line to vote??..LOL...yea...we all know how much sense that makes and what the true intention of that law is...🙄

Who can’t give you water when you are line? Who specifically? 

[DBP66]

1 minute ago, Nolebull813 said:

Who can’t give you water when you are line? Who specifically? 

the guy holding the bottle of water??...doing the criminal act of "offering" it to someone who may be thirsty in the Ga. heat.

[concha]

 

Self-serve water stations are OK. Bringing your own is OK.

Dems want America to believe that Republicans are targeting Dem voters to die from dehydration in the hot Georgia summer.

Except these elections are in November and the temperatures are typically in the 50s and 60s (and the rules apply to all) 🤡