steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: you had teams in finals that weren’t. You were missing teams that should have been on the list that had more appearances than the ones you listed. Yeah you missed it badly… One team..... and guess what, the teams I used still had a team in the finals in that given year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, steeler01 said: 2021, 2022 season now..... with Texans, it's play whoever doesn't want to play and drag said team around Lol you are so desperate for personal validation it’s pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 I'll bet 1k today Allen Northshore Katy Carroll Westlake Duncanville One of these teams makes the final this upcoming season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: One team..... and guess what, the teams I used still had a team in the finals in that given year You’re whole argument is trash. The facts remain there were many teams in the finals that won not on your list. And a few beat our traditional heavyweights to get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, steeler01 said: I'll bet 1k today Allen Northshore Katy Carroll Westlake Duncanville One of these teams makes the final this upcoming season 6 teams up there against the deep field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: I'll bet 1k today Allen Northshore Katy Carroll Westlake Duncanville One of these teams makes the final this upcoming season Give me one, not a list. I gave you exactly who was going to make the finals for Cali That’s the difference, you all are very predictable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: You’re whole argument is trash. The facts remain there were many teams in the finals that won not on your list. And a few beat our traditional heavyweights to get there You mean the same teams get there. Your argument that there's diversity is trash. You have two divisions and you play it off like if it's similar to any other set up. Every state the way Texas is set up would have diversity in their finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Give me one, not a list. I gave you exactly who was going to make the finals for Cali That’s the difference, you all are very predictable. Hard to predict when those teams aren't set in stone in a division I predicted 3 of your 4 finalists this past year after the brackets were out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Tell me what division will Carroll and Katy play in and bet 1k that'll happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, steeler01 said: Hard to predict when those teams aren't set in stone in a division I predicted 3 of your 4 finalists this past year They dont have to be set in stone in what division. If they are that dominant they’ll win in either one. You picked well after the playoffs had started, I did that exercise with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: They dont have to be set in stone in what division. If they are that dominant they’ll win in either one. You picked well after the playoffs had started, I did that exercise with you You mean 1st round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Tell me what division will Carroll and Katy play in and bet 1k that'll happen It doesn’t matter what division they’ll be in, if they’re dominant they’ll win in either one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: It doesn’t matter what division they’ll be in, if they’re dominant they’ll win in either one It matters, because you said pick one. Hard to pick just one when there's two divisions Northshore/ Katy/Westlake winner. Will be in the finals. Who will play? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, steeler01 said: You mean one or two games a year. Usually by the same team Centennial lost to Norco just last season. The year before that, cathedral beat them I'll ask you, who would play SJB and Mater Dei in that time frame close or beat them? Servite played them close as well(Beat SJB this past season) Not a single team from California. There are multiple teams who have played your “Texas list” close or beaten them. I can give the examples if you want them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, steeler01 said: You mean the same teams get there. Your argument that there's diversity is trash. You have two divisions and you play it off like if it's similar to any other set up. Every state the way Texas is set up would have diversity in their finals. I already gave the breakout of teams and finalists for just division 2 since ‘17 and it still had more parity than Cali. Here’s a recap: midway, cy fair, Longview, Westbrook, guyer, Westlake, Katy, cedar hill. 8 diff finalists and 4 diff champions the last 5 years. This is a fact! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, steeler01 said: It matters, because you said pick one. Hard to pick just one when there's two divisions Northshore/ Katy/Westlake winner. Will be in the finals. Who will play? Who knows. It’s not hard. If we had a team as dominant as MD it wouldn’t matter what division they were in you’d easily pick them. So since we are a one horse state, then it would be easy to pick a team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, SeaShells21 said: Not a single team from California. There are multiple teams who have played your “Texas list” close or beaten them. I can give the examples if you want them. Huh? You said you hardly ever see close games and mentioned DLS and Centennial. Norco and Cathedral Centennial 2 of the last 3 years has lost to teams not named SJB and Mater Dei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: It’s not hard. If we had a team as dominant as MD it wouldn’t matter what division they were in you’d easily pick them. So since we are a one horse state, then it would be easy to pick a team! Exactly, if you had a team as good, but you don't and that's why they're not losing to teams like Katy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Exactly, if you had a team as good, but you don't and that's why they're not losing to teams like Katy It’s comes back to parity. MD and SJB are a product of your CIF policies and rules not the uil. We are comparing your parity instate to teams in ours. We have more… accept it and get over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I already gave the breakout of teams and finalists for just division 2 since ‘17 and it still had more parity than Cali. Here’s a recap: midway, cy fair, Longview, Westbrook, guyer, Westlake, Katy, cedar hill. 8 diff finalists and 4 diff champions the last 5 years. This is a fact! Lol And tell us why this happens? Could it be because Katy, Northshore, Duncanville, Carroll, Westlake etc are all in division 1 for those years? Of course that's the reason. You acting like it's because they're actually beating these teams is Comical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Westbrook losing by 40+ and being able to dodge that team come playoff time to make a state title game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: It’s comes back to parity. MD and SJB are a product of your CIF policies and rules not the uil. We are comparing your parity instate to teams in ours. We have more… accept it and get over it There's more parity among 7 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, steeler01 said: And tell us why this happens? Could it be because Katy, Northshore, Duncanville, Carroll, Westlake etc are all in division 1 for those years? Of course that's the reason. You acting like it's because they're actually beating these teams is Comical Katy is on the list, they were D2 in ‘20 Duncanville and NS weren’t special in ‘17. Carroll wasn’t all that special to call them out as some championship gatekeeper. Westlake beat lake travis in ‘17, same lake travis that beat Katy in the semifinals. Westlake was D2 in ‘19 Every D2 champion from ‘17-‘22 was at least top 5, most years top 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 11:45 AM, steeler01 said: Huh? You said you hardly ever see close games and mentioned DLS and Centennial. Norco and Cathedral Centennial 2 of the last 3 years has lost to teams not named SJB and Mater Dei Centennial’s close games with California teams the last 6 seasons. 2021: Centennial 16 - Mater Dei 21 2020: Centennial 36 - Norco 38 2019: Centennial 41 - Cathedral 44 2018: None 2017: None 2016: Centennial 47 - St John Bosco 49 Mater Dei: 2021: 🥇 Mater Dei 21 - Centennial 16 Mater Dei 46 - Servite 37 2020: 🥇 Mater Dei 24 - Servite 17 2019: Mater Dei 34 - St. John Bosco 39 Mater Dei 38 - St. John Bosco 24 2018: 🥇 Mater Dei 18 - St. John Bosco 41 Mater Dei 17 - St. John Bosco 13 Mater Dei 35 - De La Salle 21 2017:🥇 Mater Dei 31 - St. John Bosco 21 2016: Mater Dei 26 - St. John Bosco 21 Mater Dei 28 - St. John Bosco 42 Close Texas games using your teams in your Texas list: Katy 2021: Katy 34 - Summer Creek 31 Katy 28 - Dickinson 21 Katy 21 - The Woodlands 14 2020:🥇 Katy 19 - Katy Tompkins 24 2019: Katy 27 - Cy Fair 14 Katy 35 - Ridge Point 28 Katy 35 - Katy Tompkins 30 Katy 24 - North Shore 21 2018: Katy 21 - North Shore 35 Katy 31 - Atascocita 28 Katy 38 - North Shore 49 2017: Katy 14 - Lake Travis 28 Katy 24 - The Woodlands 21 2016: Katy 29 - Westlake 32 Katy 50 - Klein Collins 49 Katy 3 - The Woodlands 26 Katy 17 - North Shore 20 Southlake Carroll 2021: Carroll 36 - Rockwall-Heath 35 2020:🥈 Carroll 42 - Rockwall 44 Carroll 30 - Arlington Martin 26 Carroll 34 - Duncanville 27 2019: Carroll 35 - Duncanville 49 Carroll 46 - Guyer 34 2018: Carroll 24 - Permian 20 Carroll 33 - Guyer 29 2017: Carroll 33 - Arlington Martin 50 Carroll 52 - Rockwall 38 Carroll 45 - Flower Mound 31 Carroll 20 - Euless Trinity 21 Carroll 35 - F.M. Marcus 21 Carroll 24 - LD Bell 17 Carroll 31 - Hebron 36 Carroll 28 - Arlington 24 Carroll 28 - Midway 42 2016: Carroll 30 - Rockwall 23 Westlake 2021: 🥇 None 2020: 🥇 Westlake 24 - North Shore 21 2019: 🥇 Westlake 25 - Lake Travis 26 2018: Westlake 21 - Cy Ranch 25 Westlake 28 - Schertz Clemens 14 Westlake 30 - Westbrook 35 2017: Westlake 35 - College Station 28 Westlake 33 - Vandegrift 31 Westlake 34 - Buda Hays 24 Westlake 21 - Lake Travis 14 Westlake 28 - Steele 14 Westlake 6 - Cy Fair 14 2016: Westlake 32 - Katy 29 Westlake 35 - Austin Bowie 21 Westlake 17 - Vandegrift 10 Westlake 7 - Lake Travis 49 Westlake 24 - Judson 21 Westlake 3 - Lake Travis 51 North Shore 2021: 🥇 North Shore 17 - Duncanville 10 North Shore 26 - Katy Tompkins 20 North Shore 31 - Atascocita 21 North Shore 21 - Westfield 27 2020: North Shore 30 - Klein Collins 23 North Shore 21 - Westlake 24 2019: North Shore 31 - Duncanville 17 North Shore 49 - Lake Travis 38 North Shore 24 - Westfield 21 North Shore 21 - Katy 24 2018: North Shore 41 - Duncanville 36 North Shore 49 - Katy 38 North Shore 35 - Katy 21 2017: North Shore 3 - Katy 31 North Shore 21 - Atascocita 38 North Shore 21 - Manvel 24 North Shore 20 - Westfield 37 2016: North Shore 13 - Manvel 26 North Shore 31 - Atascocita 21 North Shore 17 - Dickinson 7 North Shore 20 - Katy 27 Allen 2021: Allen 20 - Atascocita 41 Allen 37 - Boyd 24 Allen 38 - Guyer 31 Allen 23 - Prosper 28 Allen 21 - Southlake Carroll 47 2020: Allen 35 - Prosper 31 Allen 20 - South Grand Prairie 16 Allen 45 - Euless Trinity 49 2019: Allen 41 - Cedar Hill 28 Allen 38 - Dickinson 24 Allen 28 - Coppell 21 Allen 59 - Rockwall 60 2018: Allen 31 - The Woodlands 24 Allen 35 - Duncanville 44 2017: Allen 35 - Coppell 23 Allen 28 - South Grand Prairie 14 Allen 35 - Lake Travis 33 2016: Allen 38 - Plano East 31 Allen 34 - Euless Trinity 25 Allen 34 - San Angelo Central 21 Euless Trinity 2021: Euless Trinity 14 - Westlake 34 Euless Trinity 30 - CV Heritage 27 Euless Trinity 28 - Permian 17 Euless Trinity 21 - Allen 59 2020: Euless Trinity 35 - Arlington Lamar 28 Euless Trinity 21 - Prosper 29 Euless Trinity 56 - Midland Legacy 49 Euless Trinity 49 - Allen 45 Euless 35 - Carroll 59 2019: Euless Trinity 20 - Midway 14 Euless Trinity 21 - Sachse 19 Euless Trinity 31 - CV Heritage 17 Euless Trinity 20 - Haltom 23 Euless Trinity 34 - Arlington Lamar 37 2018: Euless Trinity 20 - Sachse 14 Euless Trinity 35 - CV Heritage 28 Euless Trinity 34 - Haltom 48 Euless Trinity 7 - Carroll 35 2017: Euless Trinity 14 - CV Heritage 31 Euless Trinity 21 - Carroll 20 Euless Trinity 35 - Byron Nelson 21 Euless Trinity 31 - Hebron 28 Euless Trinity 21 - FM Marcus 16 Euless Trinity 28 - Plano 21 Euless 28 - Duncanville 27 2016: Euless Trinity 28 - Westfield 27 Euless Trinity 35 - CV Heritage 21 Euless Trinity 28 - Carroll 42 Euless Trinity 20 - Byron Nelson 21 Euless Trinity 21 - Hebron 39 Euless Trinity 25 - Allen 34 Euless Trinity 34 - Midland Legacy 23 Could you tell me what you consider close, (under 2 TDs) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Katy is on the list, they were D2 in ‘20 Duncanville and NS weren’t special in ‘17. Carroll wasn’t all that special to call them out as some championship gatekeeper. Westlake beat lake travis in ‘17, same lake travis that beat Katy in the semifinals. Westlake was D2 in ‘19 Give it up steeler. I’ve got better things to do today. I see you avoided the West Brook topic. It's no coincidence why these 2nd tier teams are making the finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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