Bormio Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 … hell, it’s a start (there is no federal solution to a whole bunch of problems) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bormio Posted December 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Oops, wrong lever on the bidet. bgw Damn cataract surgery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 for once there might actually be. They should roll out a serious monocholonal antibody treatment program. If they want to save as many lives as possible, that seems to be the way. Even though omicron is not nearly as deadly as the other two strains, it seems like this is a way to at least end this variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, 181pl said: for once there might actually be. They should roll out a serious monocholonal antibody treatment program. If they want to save as many lives as possible, that seems to be the way. Even though omicron is not nearly as deadly as the other two strains, it seems like this is a way to at least end this variant. This is so stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: This is so stupid. Vaccines have not been effective in preventing the spread of the variants 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: This is so stupid. Antibodies not only treat but give better immunity… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 hours ago, DBP66 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, 181pl said: Vaccines have not been effective in preventing the spread of the variants We have not reached anywhere close to herd immunity. The vaccines have been proven effective in greatly reducing the risk of hospitalization and death. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, 181pl said: Antibodies not only treat but give better immunity… You are literally just making this up. The monoclonal antibody treatment are only for those who have already tested positive for COVID. It's also way more expensive than the vaccine and, what's more, is *already* running out. Texas runs out of monoclonal antibody treatment to fight omicron variant of COVID-19 The anti-vaxx thing is literally a mass delusion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: We have not reached anywhere close to herd immunity. The vaccines have been proven effective in greatly reducing the risk of hospitalization and death. could herd immunity be a myth at this point? I mean look at something like the flu? You’ll never get heard immunity on that. Or the common cold. It’s becoming a extremely communicable but non-life-threatening disease. At least for the vast vast majority of people. It’s an inconvenience. I had the original strain a year ago and it was totally miserable. And there were no treatments back then. Didn’t even go to the doctor. They just told me to go home and isolate. At least we now have treatments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, 181pl said: I love tweets from anonymous twitter accounts. They're always so informative and fact-based! And always posted by some right-wing anti-vaxx loon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 181pl said: could herd immunity be a myth at this point? No, 35% of the country seemingly refuses to get vaccinated. This is not not difficult stuff. You're just deluded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: You are literally just making this up. The monoclonal antibody treatment are only for those who have already tested positive for COVID. It's also way more expensive than the vaccine and, what's more, is *already* running out. Texas runs out of monoclonal antibody treatment to fight omicron variant of COVID-19 The anti-vaxx thing is literally a mass delusion. Florida is out of antibodies as of yesterday. I know because we all went and got Covid tested. I was negative. My son was exposed to somebody at his office. And we went to the center where they both test you and then immediately gave you antibodies. I didn’t need it nor did my wife. And I’m not an anti-VAX. I’ve had corona and two shots. So three exposures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I love tweets from anonymous twitter accounts. They're always so informative and fact-based! And always posted by some right-wing anti-vaxx loon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, 181pl said: LOL...I think he's referring to the dopey anti-vacciners...the ones who don't trust science...the morons out there...you know the kind! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, DBP66 said: LOL...I think he's referring to the dopey anti-vacciners...the ones who don't trust science...the morons out there...you know the kind! I’m vaxxed and have had Covid. I’m good 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, 181pl said: I’m vaxxed and have had Covid. I’m good I'm vaxed and boostered....peace of mind!...😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: No, 35% of the country seemingly refuses to get vaccinated. This is not not difficult stuff. You're just deluded. Again, idiot, I’ve had 3 years exposures. Original hard core covid and two moderna shots. All good here. Viable treatments are a good thing. Shocking that anyone could dusagree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, 181pl said: Florida is out of antibodies as of yesterday. Because our Governor has tweeted about it at about a 20-to-1 ratio versus the vaccine. Think about how utterly preposterous that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 181pl said: Again, idiot, I’ve had 3 years exposures. Original hard core covid and two moderna shots. All good here. What does this have to do with the 35% of people who refuse to get vaccinated? You may think what you're doing is harmless but the constant nitpicking and nonsense pushing of antibody treatments increases the likelihood that people will not get vaccinated which is the easiest, safest and least costly way to end the pandemic. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, 181pl said: Viable treatments are a good thing. Shocking that anyone could dusagree with that. Pushing treatments that are post-infection, less effective and more costly than the vaccine is asinine. It prolongs the pandemic and then those same people turn around and mock Biden for not ending it. It's shocking that people would avoid a vaccine because of political ID but they're doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Because our Governor has tweeted about it at about a 20-to-1 ratio versus the vaccine. Think about how utterly preposterous that is. I was wrong. It was 30-to-1. DeSantis Has Tweeted About Monoclonal Treatment 30 Times in August, Vaccines Just Once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: What does this have to do with the 35% of people who refuse to get vaccinated? You may think what you're doing is harmless but the constant nitpicking and nonsense pushing of antibody treatments increases the likelihood that people will not get vaccinated which is the easiest, safest and least costly way to end the pandemic. Normally I’d agree with you on this but the vaccines are not stopping the spread to the vaccinated or unvaccinated. breakthrough infections are now the norm, not an exception. Think we’re all on the same side on this. I’m not anti-vaccine I just think we need to be ramping up treatment effort as well so when someone does get sick they will get better much more quickly and will not have expensive hospitalization. A $200 antibody treatment is much better than a month stay in the hospital and a $1 million hospital bill that a lot of people will never end up paying. That comes back to you and I paying for it. Either through taxes or higher insurance premiums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 181pl said: Normally I’d agree with you on this but the vaccines are not stopping the spread to the vaccinated or unvaccinated. And monoclonal antibodies are only for *post* infection treatment. So of course you offer a criticism that isn't solved by your "solution" at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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