GoBigBlack Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Hell why not get catholic cathedral and olu in the mix? They routinely are way over ranked and we don’t hear a peep from you guys. Both are ranked way ahead of carroll and Katy 2015 - 557th 2016 - 15th 2017 - 1885th 2018 - 40th 2019 - 171st What, exactly do you mean by "routinely overrated"? 171st is too high for you? Were they actually 207th that year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Here are Olu's rankings over the same period -- 94th, 211th, 98th, 115th, 425th, 138th Yeah, let's send a team that's average rank the last five seasons was outside the top 200. That'll prove the Texas dominance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Centennial has played in these games as well. They beat Chandler. Look, I'm not Texasball(your brethren), I'm not parroting depth crap I didn’t mention Cen10. I specifically mentioned who I mentioned, I did it for a reason. Funny I never hear you and others say 💩 about their ranking, only about texas teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, GoBigBlack said: Locations? Well, Texas wouldn't know about that. Westlake's weakest part of their game is the defensive backfield. Servite's biggest strength, by far, is it's passing game. WL would get lit up like a pinball machine against any top team with a balanced offense and strong passing game. I do not consider "competing" with SJB to be special. I think Servite beating the pants off of SJB, playing MD to 7 and 9 points within 5 months, putting up 37 on MD, going up by 45 at halftime against the D2 champion, holding it's semifinal opponent to three points, and beating the living crap out of everyone else they played in what's unanimously considered the toughest division in the United States is special. I think having the national player of the year is special. I consider having an All American QB who was named the best player in CA in his soph AND junior years special. I consider likely having every player on the field playing in college special. I consider playing the entire season without the #1 athlete in the country for the class of 2024 and still having all that success to be special. What don't you consider special? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Are you implying that California only has maybe five teams worth mentioning? No I'm implying I want to see the top teams face the top teams. I don't care about watching Cathedral Catholic play NS/ Central/ Aquinas etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Horsefly said: I didn’t mention Cen10. I specifically mentioned who I mentioned, I did it for a reason. Funny I never hear you and others say 💩 about their ranking, only about texas teams When have you heard me say anything about those teams? Cathedral Catholic would do just fine playing Spring/Atascocita/Vandergrift/ Ryan etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: No I'm implying I want to see the top teams face the top teams. I don't care about watching Cathedral Catholic play NS/ Central/ Aquinas etc Why not they were ranked ahead of most of them this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Horsefly said: Why not they were ranked ahead of most of them this year Ranked by who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, steeler01 said: When have you heard me say anything about those teams? Cathedral Catholic would do just fine playing Spring/Atascocita/Vandergrift/ Ryan etc You can say something about them now. CC is the 13th ranked team in the country. Olu is 27th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, steeler01 said: Ranked by who? Calpreps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Horsefly said: You can say something about them now. CC is the 13th ranked team in the country. Olu is 27th. Neither is that good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Horsefly said: Calpreps I've said it many times on here, Calpreps does a good job of ranking teams instate. As long as there's connectivity(Which is why it sucks in Texas. No connectivity amongst the 4A and 6A schools, but you can filter it and only use the 6A division). Nationally, when have you ever seen me use calpreps? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, steeler01 said: I've said it many times on here, Calpreps does a good job of ranking teams instate. As long as there's connectivity(Which is why it sucks in Texas. No connectivity amongst the 4A and 6A schools, but you can filter it and only use the 6A division). Nationally, when have you ever seen me use calpreps? Whether you use it or not is up to you, but there’s plenty enough connectivity for national rankings. Only Texas throws a wrench in the mix, and yeah it’s exactly for the reason you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Neither is that good Did you just say Corona Centennial “isn’t that good”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, GoBigBlack said: Did you just say Corona Centennial “isn’t that good”? Cathedral Catholic and Orange Lutheran. They're not top 30 teams in the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Cathedral Catholic and Orange Lutheran. They're not top 30 teams in the country Cathedral could probably hang with anyone above 15th. But I haven’t seen every top 30 team, so like you I’m speculating at best. They only lost to Corona Centennial and De La Salle. Olu went on a tear and squeaked out several victories to win a championship. Playoff wins are worth more. I don’t think they’re that good either, but I’m biased because we were up 42-6 at half. They still have a good roster and coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, GoBigBlack said: Cathedral could probably hang with anyone above 15th. But I haven’t seen every top 30 team, so like you I’m speculating at best. They only lost to Corona Centennial and De La Salle. Olu went on a tear and squeaked out several victories to win a championship. Playoff wins are worth more. I don’t think they’re that good either, but I’m biased because we were up 42-6 at half. They still have a good roster and coaching staff. No they cannot, they’d be bullied by more physical teams. They’re ahead of SFA, and IMG. Once again, your bias is evident. Watch more teams in that range. they get a Cali boost b/c of MD and SJB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, Horsefly said: No they cannot, they’d be bullied by more physical teams. They’re ahead of SFA, and IMG. Once again, your bias is evident. Watch more teams in that range. they get a Cali boost b/c of MD and SJB Cali boost? Lol. Right. Where do IMG and SFA rank for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, GoBigBlack said: Cali boost? Lol. Right. Where do IMG and SFA rank for you? Well ahead of cathedral catholic for so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Well ahead of cathedral catholic for so sure. Yeah? So where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, GoBigBlack said: Yeah? So where? I don’t value HS national polls, they’re silly for this reason. No way to assess teams where a majority of the top 100 don’t even play each other nor create enough of an association to rank realistically. but as a tier, there probably aren’t 5 or so teams that could beat them consistently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I don’t value HS national polls, they’re silly for this reason. No way to assess teams where a majority of the top 100 don’t even play each other nor create enough of an association to rank realistically. but as a tier, there probably aren’t 5 or so teams that could beat them consistently Yeah I agree. So when I said Cathedral could hang (not beat) with anyone OUTSIDE the top 15, why would you bring two teams INSIDE the top 15 into the conversation? That’s a rhetorical question. I know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, GoBigBlack said: Yeah I agree. So when I said Cathedral could hang (not beat) with anyone OUTSIDE the top 15, why would you bring two teams INSIDE the top 15 into the conversation? That’s a rhetorical question. I know why. Because you referenced 15-30. You obviously don’t mean 1-15. That’s an even more ridiculous assessment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Because you referenced 15-30. You obviously don’t mean 1-15. That’s an even more ridiculous assessment So we both agree SFA and IMG are inside the top 15, but you brought them into the discussion about teams Cathedral couldn't beat that are outside the top 15? I have a feeling you've been hitting the sauce tonight. Sleep it off and think it over tomorrow. Also, if I said outside the top 15, I wouldn't be referencing 15-30. It would be 16-30. A team cannot be both outside and inside the top 15 simultaneously. Numbers can be tough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, GoBigBlack said: So we both agree SFA and IMG are inside the top 15, but you brought them into the discussion about teams Cathedral couldn't beat that are outside the top 15? I have a feeling you've been hitting the sauce tonight. Sleep it off and think it over tomorrow. Also, if I said outside the top 15, I wouldn't be referencing 15-30. It would be 16-30. A team cannot be both outside and inside the top 15 simultaneously. Numbers can be tough. So you think they could play with teams in the 1-15 range? That’s inside the top 15 genius. So what is it, they can play with anyone in the 1-15 range or the 15-30 range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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