181pl Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 1. STA- Bad coaching led to BTW fluke loss; Should have beat BG with ease. Somehow pissed away a game they dominated. Something clicked and now they are playing to their potential. Every win this team has had has been by a running clock. And they don't play in soft Nevada. 40 or so players on the roster with D1 offers just in the Sr. and Jr. classes. Look it up on 247 sports if you don't believe me. Use the "school" recruitment filter. 2. Gorman- Ballsiest team and has a lot of talent; Team with most heart, by far, on this list. 3. IMG- Overwhelming talent; vanilla play on both sides of ball or this would be your #1 team. 4. SJB- Speed and skill, but garbage defense compared to most on this list. 5. Grayson- If they would have beat IMG, they'd be in the NC conversation 6. MD- Great skill. California soft of defense. 7. Carol City- Stifling defense and athletes all over; play in the heart of the meat grinder. Miami-Dade. 8. Allen- Great team; Texas has no defense 9. DeMatha- Play in MD, so to win NC, they need to schedule the perceived powers (STA, BG, IMG, SJB, MD, etc.) 10. DeSoto- Might be better than Allen. Dumb Texas playoff format so we'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 All I got out of this was Florida is great...and a bunch of back handed compliments 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 I think it should be Gorman/IMG/Grayson. Then we have to wonder, if Grayson goes on to win state, and then makes the trip to Texas and wins it's game in the state champions bowl, do they earn another spot or two, depending on the match-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Florida is VERY GOOD....... Calf plays no defense and two of Fla teams that I know of, STA and Lakeland have beaten your best... Calf scores are like basketball games and with few exceptions,181 appears about spot on.. Again,DLS,who has been your best does not bode to well in OOS games.. Garbage defense is a comical reference to NO DEFENSE..... IMG gave up 49 to CC and should have lost.Your logic tells me they play garbage defense...good lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 They won. Going across the counrty. Playing a meat grinder schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 minute ago, 181pl said: They won. Going across the counrty. Playing a meat grinder schedule. That's not the point.You fellas claiming California plays no defense while arguably Florida's best gives up 49 to a California team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 California plays no defense. Except DLS. Look at your scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: One team,does not represent Fla.. IMG is NOT considered a Fla HS either,no 181 appears pretty close. They are better than every Florida team not named STA arguably.Somehow you believe no Florida team would get scorched by the better California offenses....silliness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ararar said: I cant get out of Araras quote box... heeelllpppp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: CAROL CITY = MEAT GRINDER THAT's why....Again,IMG IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE FHS league nor is a member of the Fla interstate athl assoc.. Again missing the point.Who in Florida has a better overall Defense than IMG? STA? Who else??? Yet you claim in your Florida myopia Florida would shut down California's better offensive teams....Not well thought out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: 8 minutes ago, Ararar said: I cant get out of Araras quote box... heeelllpppp I just backspace the quote and poster and it gets me out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Idk... there are 7-8 teams right now playing very well... Gorman IMG Grayson SJB STA Allen .... I didnt want to see GA play FL in the Geico Series..... but I hope for Grayson to play STA now... although an undefeated Bingham or Hot-handed Chandler would be welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB bos Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Other than BG SJB has put a running clock on every OOS game the past 5yrs .....NJ Ohio AZ OR Hawaii Wash Utah was the only other OOS with no running clock back in 2011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 12 minutes ago, 181pl said: California plays no defense. Except DLS. Look at your scores. Cen10s offense would keep them in literally any game though... and I dont even like California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 37 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Florida is VERY GOOD....... Calf plays no defense and two of Fla teams that I know of, STA and Lakeland have beaten your best... Calf scores are like basketball games and with few exceptions,181 appears about spot on.. Again,DLS,who has been your best does not bode to well in OOS games.. Garbage defense is a comical reference to NO DEFENSE..... Actually There are very good defensive teams in Calif. If they played a BNU schedule or a GA schedule, the Top Calif schools would have multiple winning 56-7 or 28-3 games for the entire schedule. What skews the defensive stats is the tremendous offenses the Top Calif schools play. exhibit A - SJB vs SPP exhibit B - SJB vs. St.X exhibit C - Cen10 vs The Bishop Exhibit D - Cen10 vs IMG exhibit E - Amat vs Aledo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Actually There are very good defensive teams in Calif. If they played a BNU schedule or a GA schedule, the Top Calif schools would have multiple winning 56-7 or 28-3 games for the entire schedule. What skews the defensive stats is the tremendous offenses the Top Calif schools play. exhibit A - SJB vs SPP exhibit B - SJB vs. St.X exhibit C - Cen10 vs The Bishop Exhibit D - Cen10 vs IMG exhibit E - Amat vs Aledo Using SJB vs SPP is an insult... SPP was NOT good. That is not a game to promote. The rest... ok. But Id put the SPP thing to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Sorry but STA is just not in the conversation for Top 5 maybe even Top 10. Here is their condensed resume. 1. No Top 100 wins 2. Multiple losses. bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Sorry but STA is just not in the conversation for Top 5 maybe even Top 10. Here is their condensed resume. 1. No Top 100 wins 2. Multiple losses. bye Since the disappearance of DJ... some fans, on this site, have turned polls into whatever they want them to be. Normally the type that favors their team. Whether its an SoS poll, a Total Resume Poll, a # of Top 100 wins poll... No. A poll IS and always has been 1 thing... Who the best team is the date of that poll. SoS is used, because playing better teams is a platform to show how good you really are. It doesnt decide rank. The total # of top 100 wins means dick also. And while it can be hard to judge 1 teams worth if they arent playing a good team themselves... no one left standing at this point is a bad team. And thats the point of the season to get better. If Team A suffered a loss earlier in the season, and Team B did not... you cant not rank Team A ahead of Team B if Team A is the better team NOW. A poll is made new every week. Its not the shit USAT would force down the publics throat.. an inheritance poll. Mine... now. 1. Gorman 2. IMG 3. Grayson 4. SJB 5. Allen 6. Mater Dei 7. STA 8. DeMatha 9. Corona Centennial 10. DeSoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LOSer Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 32 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Sorry but STA is just not in the conversation for Top 5 maybe even Top 10. Here is their condensed resume. 1. No Top 100 wins 2. Multiple losses. bye It really doesn't matter because #1 is settled and that's the only thing really worth arguing about. But if you're trying to determine who the best teams are then you're being idiotic. Two months ago DLSPop was saying that STA didn't have any top 500 wins. Now you're saying they don't have any top 100 wins. Next week you'll be saying they don't have any top 50 wins. After a potential bowl game you'll be saying that they don't have any top 25 wins. It's all predetermined in your mind. By the way your 'generational' team lost by 2 touchdowns yesterday and should probably have 2 losses. Bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Canes....At least be origional with your put downs.... Get STA out to Calif next year. Let's. See how their vaunted Defense holds up. Lol #notholdingmybreath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 I wouldn't say SJB has a bad defense, I would say they play a bit conservative on D. They've got some players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 19 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Since the disappearance of DJ... some fans, on this site, have turned polls into whatever they want them to be. Normally the type that favors their team. Whether its an SoS poll, a Total Resume Poll, a # of Top 100 wins poll... No. A poll IS and always has been 1 thing... Who the best team is the date of that poll. SoS is used, because playing better teams is a platform to show how good you really are. It doesnt decide rank. The total # of top 100 wins means dick also. And while it can be hard to judge 1 teams worth if they arent playing a good team themselves... no one left standing at this point is a bad team. And thats the point of the season to get better. If Team A suffered a loss earlier in the season, and Team B did not... you cant not rank Team A ahead of Team B if Team A is the better team NOW. A poll is made new every week. Its not the shit USAT would force down the publics throat.. an inheritance poll. Mine... now. 1. Gorman 2. IMG 3. Grayson 4. SJB 5. Allen 6. Mater Dei 7. STA 8. DeMatha 9. Corona Centennial 10. DeSoto No issue with #1 or #2 but 3-10 could be interchangeable, to suit regional bias which you obviously took liberties with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Canes....At least be origional with your put downs.... Get STA out to Calif next year. Let's. See how their vaunted Defense holds up. Lol #notholdingmybreath I get that people can't stand Canes, but STA DOES have a nasty defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LOSer Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Canes....At least be origional with your put downs.... Get STA out to Calif next year. Let's. See how their vaunted Defense holds up. Lol #notholdingmybreath We're going to come out there and further expose that generational team. We held Bishop Gorman to 10 points in regulation. There's no defense that has proven more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, 954gator said: I wouldn't say SJB has a bad defense, I would say they play a bit conservative on D. They've got some players. SJB executed a game plan. No more no less. saying SJB plays conservative defense, judged by watching last night is equivalent to saying Ali had no foot. Speed judged by watching him Rope a dope George Foreman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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