Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: So your opinion is that Quinn Ewers is not very good, which is a different topic than whether or not high school football players should take money if they have the opportunity. And Ewers has that opportunity, apparently. Yes, your tennis examples are wrong because they were actually world-class players who were being paid for their performance. Quinn Ewers has done nothing and wouldn't be paid a cent by anybody to play football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: There's NO ho-hum. STA is looking out for #1-wants to win badly.......kids transferring to STA are looking out for #1-themselves. Things are what they are. You playing morality police is pretty humorous though. Me, I don't care enough about it one way of the other. It's out of my control. I stated my opinion a month ago. Carry on RedZone, embarrassing himself by not having an actual argument about the topic, now goes full throttle on STA regarding a completely different topic. What's more is that I bet I'll get blamed for changing the subject to STA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: Me, I don't care enough about it one way of the other. It's out of my control. I stated my opinion a month ago. 😄 One of the biggest lies ever told. But let's give RedZone the attention he so desperately craves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: RedZone being utterly incompetent and pathetic as usual. I'm the least laudatory or ingratiating of anybody on this board when it comes to football transfers. You're the one who props up these kids whenever you want to complain about a transfer. I remember you whining about Colton Lynn. Don't remember him? Not surprising. But because he transferred to STA in 2013 and played against John Curtis you went apeshit. Turns out I was right to dismiss his presence as a mere high school kid going to.....high school. Nothing more. You never learn these lessons which is sad for how old you are. No one even knows what you are talking about, especially me....STA picked up 15-17 transfers this off season. Like I said.........everyone wants fame and fortune. Don't close your eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Yes, your tennis example are wrong because they were actually world-class players who were being paid for their performance. Like Ewers, the tennis players were not being paid for their performance before they were paid for their performance. It turns out they were world-class players after they became professional. To say there was no question whatsoever that they would become as successful as they did, when they were still amateurs, would have been a guess. I, too, am surprised you are struggling with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: RedZone, embarrassing himself by not having an actual argument about the topic, Why argue or debate something I already made my point on a month ago....go back and read it if you must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, RedZone said: No one even knows what you are talking about, especially me.... You prop up transfers more than anybody on this forum and then you want to accuse me of.....something or the other. All you do is change the subject, make terrible points and seek attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, RedZone said: Like I said.........everyone wants fame and fortune. Not a single person has claimed otherwise. Again, you're just spit-balling to get attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: Like Ewers, the tennis players were not being paid for their performance Yes, they were. They were millionaires based on their athletic winnings alone. If they signed endorsements it was ancillary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: It turns out they were world-class players after they became professional. Quinn Ewers is not turning professional and playing against grown men. Your examples are trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: To say there was no question whatsoever that they would become as successful as they did, when they were still amateurs, would have been a guess. I didn't say this at all. You're out in left field. They turned professional and beat other professionals to become the best in the world at what they do. Quinn Ewers isn't turning professional and if he did would be put into a body bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, RedZone said: Why argue or debate something I already made my point on a month ago....go back and read it if you must. I don't care about your opinion on this hence why I'm in this thread and not that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Quinn Ewers has done nothing and wouldn't be paid a cent by anybody to play football. What is this thread about? I thought it had something to do with his opportunity to get paid because of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, maxchoboian said: What is this thread about? I thought it had something to do with his opportunity to get paid because of football. He's not being paid by a Kombucha company to play football. He's peddling his crappy level of fame. Not the same thing. Martina Hingis was the best female tennis player in the world at that point in her life. Stop making bad syllogisms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Las Vegas_JC said: FullSizeRender.mov 37.96 MB · 0 downloads Shakobe might have been able to get about $5 in NIL money from Skoal. He should take the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: He's not being paid by a Kombucha company to play football. He's peddling his crappy level of fame. Not the same thing. Martina Hingis was the best female tennis player in the world at that point in her life. Stop making bad syllogisms. Where did his crappy level of fame come from? Again, Martina Hingis was not the best female tennis player in the world before she became a professional. A few years later she was though. Ewers is not the best football player in the world. So he shouldn't consider taking advantage of a significant financial opportunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I don't care about your opinion on this hence why I'm in this thread and not that one. Well, I hope your slanted opinion proves whatever it is you are trying prove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, Cracker said: It makes 100% sense. Take what you can get, when you can get it. He might have an injury that ends his ability to capitalize in that market. Please crack open an economics book, at least for a brief moment. LOL! You're talking to individual decisions and wealth I'm talking to the macro view of the Industry impacted over the long haul, amateur sports. I predict the NIL will not be good for amateur sports. This is analogous to a person making profits in the short term but destroying the environment along the way 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, The Colonel said: Yet, people do it every day. People vote against their own self-interests, and cede power to others who don’t care about them. Hell, some loot and burn their own neighborhoods and then complain when businesses don’t come back. Unintended consequences are the realities of our economy. It’s always been this way…. And that's why we are where we are today, weaker collectively. Giving an explanation and pointing to what we've done in the past doesn't make it acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: And that's why we are where we are today, weaker collectively. Giving an explanation and pointing to what we've done in the past doesn't make it acceptable. I didn’t say it’s acceptable to me, but we all have to “accept” it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTerrapin Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 47 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Yes, your tennis examples are wrong because they were actually world-class players who were being paid for their performance. Quinn Ewers has done nothing and wouldn't be paid a cent by anybody to play football. Another way to look at this is as fast as one can become a social media darling they can turn on you just as fast. One misstep or says/post the wrong thing and poof no one is interested in him anymore in that way and Kombucha is quickly not interested anymore. To me that has as much if not bigger chance of happening over the next few months than getting injured playing his senior year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: Again, Martina Hingis was not the best female tennis player in the world before she became a professional. A few years later she was though. And Quinn Ewers is *not* being a professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: Where did his crappy level of fame come from? Throwing the ball a million times a game against *amateurs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Colonel said: I didn’t say it’s acceptable to me, but we all have to “accept” it. No we don’t, change comes about from not accepting things, I’m not just speaking about this NIL issue either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: Ewers is not the best football player in the world. So he shouldn't consider taking advantage of a significant financial opportunity? He's not even a professional of any kind. He shouldn't even be getting these offers but even if he is then his parents should display some better judgment and tell him to wait 5 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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