Ararar Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, Frosty4024 said: As someone that knows Lancaster hasn't had a decent season since 2017. I say this wholeheartedly and in fun speculation: No chance in hell this happens...get this BS out of here. It’s not Lancaster it’s Paraclete…a private school in Lancaster.I would agree however that they should never beat a top 10 team from any football state 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb72 Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 hours ago, RedZone said: YOU really need to know your high school football to know some of these California teams. Paraclete Spirits........alright. 😄 https://highschoolfootballamerica.com/high-school-football-america-2021-preseason-high-school-football-national-rankings-honorable-mention/ C E Byrd, really? Who would have ever thunk Alexandria Senior would get mention before West Monroe... Talked to coach Arledge a couple days ago, could be an interesting season 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted July 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Reb72 said: C E Byrd, really? Who would have ever thunk Alexandria Senior would get mention before West Monroe... Talked to coach Arledge a couple days ago, could be an interesting season 😉 That goofball just added Alexandria......they weren't there this morning. West Monroe gonna bring it this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 14 hours ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Hey Texas and Louisiana love to use calperps matchup to talk shit about NJ but no if if doesn’t favor y’all u guys say it’s garbage 🗑 lol make up your Damn minds Durn just Durnnnnn I don't need (nor use) a Calpreps or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Reb72 said: C E Byrd, really? Who would have ever thunk Alexandria Senior would get mention before West Monroe... Talked to coach Arledge a couple days ago, could be an interesting season 😉 They do know Suggs retired at Byrd right? I hope the Alexandria vs West Monroe game is streamed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Ararar said: It’s not Lancaster it’s Paraclete…a private school in Lancaster.I would agree however that they should never beat a top 10 team from any football state Mind saw one thing...Fingers typed the other. My Bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Reb72 said: C E Byrd, really? Who would have ever thunk Alexandria Senior would get mention before West Monroe... Talked to coach Arledge a couple days ago, could be an interesting season 😉 Ask coach if he’s still rocking a Linebacker as ur QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Ask coach if he’s still rocking a Linebacker as ur QB They hired from within...of course they gonna run the "spread option." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 23 hours ago, Columbiafan said: Just looking at the Florida list I saw a lot of eyebrow raising selections but it will get corrected as some of those teams crash and burn themselves right out of the rankings Which quarter of a game between Berkeley Prep and Lakeland would Lakeland put a running clock on BP? 1st? 2nd? Or, god forbid, 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted July 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, badrouter said: Which quarter of a game between Berkeley Prep and Lakeland would Lakeland put a running clock on BP? 1st? 2nd? Or, god forbid, 3rd? The #8 team in Florida only beat Berkeley Prep by 2 points last year... 8 Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood, FL) team preview trend Florida 3A Region 4 3A 8-2 1-0 (3rd) 4-1 56.5 37.5 67-30 WINS: #205 Berkeley Prep (Tampa, FL) (23-21), #490 Edison (Miami, FL) (28-0), #502 Champagnat Catholic (Hialeah, FL) (27-14), #809 Bishop Verot (Fort Myers, FL) (21-6), #963 Calvary Christian Academy (Fort Lauderdale, FL) (38-6), #1158 Clearwater Academy International (Clearwater, FL) (44-34), #2896 Benjamin (Palm Beach Gardens, FL) (41-7), #4269 Somerset Academy Silver Palms (Miami, FL) (52-0), LOSSES: #44 American Heritage (Plantation, FL) (7-3), #69 Trinity Christian Academy (Jacksonville, FL) (25-22) Lakeland was #69 in Florida last year and blown up 4 times.........had 1 win vs a Top 1000 team by 1 point. 69 Lakeland (FL) team preview trend Florida 7A Region 3 7A 6-4 3-1 (6th) 5-4 34.4 24 61-45 WINS: #991 Lake Gibson (Lakeland, FL) (23-22), #2605 Durant (Plant City, FL) (35-0), #3348 Kathleen (Lakeland, FL) (42-7), #3348 Kathleen (Lakeland, FL) (37-9), #3496 Winter Haven (FL) (42-14), #8915 Strawberry Crest (Dover, FL) (44-0), LOSSES: #172 Bloomingdale (Valrico, FL) (39-14), #207 Venice (FL) (41-20), #476 Tampa Bay Tech (Tampa, FL) (55-34), #845 Wekiva (Apopka, FL) (28-22) I don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 Berkeley Prep must be playing a Louisiana school... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Berkeley Prep must be playing a Louisiana school... Idk if they are but Berkeley Prep ain't a bad team for Florida I currently have them ranked in my top 50 and reasonably high in it (only a few spots from being in the top half) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, RedZone said: The #8 team in Florida only beat Berkeley Prep by 2 points last year... 8 Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood, FL) team preview trend Florida 3A Region 4 3A 8-2 1-0 (3rd) 4-1 56.5 37.5 67-30 WINS: #205 Berkeley Prep (Tampa, FL) (23-21), #490 Edison (Miami, FL) (28-0), #502 Champagnat Catholic (Hialeah, FL) (27-14), #809 Bishop Verot (Fort Myers, FL) (21-6), #963 Calvary Christian Academy (Fort Lauderdale, FL) (38-6), #1158 Clearwater Academy International (Clearwater, FL) (44-34), #2896 Benjamin (Palm Beach Gardens, FL) (41-7), #4269 Somerset Academy Silver Palms (Miami, FL) (52-0), LOSSES: #44 American Heritage (Plantation, FL) (7-3), #69 Trinity Christian Academy (Jacksonville, FL) (25-22) Lakeland was #69 in Florida last year and blown up 4 times.........had 1 win vs a Top 1000 team by 1 point. 69 Lakeland (FL) team preview trend Florida 7A Region 3 7A 6-4 3-1 (6th) 5-4 34.4 24 61-45 WINS: #991 Lake Gibson (Lakeland, FL) (23-22), #2605 Durant (Plant City, FL) (35-0), #3348 Kathleen (Lakeland, FL) (42-7), #3348 Kathleen (Lakeland, FL) (37-9), #3496 Winter Haven (FL) (42-14), #8915 Strawberry Crest (Dover, FL) (44-0), LOSSES: #172 Bloomingdale (Valrico, FL) (39-14), #207 Venice (FL) (41-20), #476 Tampa Bay Tech (Tampa, FL) (55-34), #845 Wekiva (Apopka, FL) (28-22) I don't see it. Berkeley Prep beat Victory Christian by six points. VC is a de facto JV team for Lakeland, coached almost exclusively by ex-Dreadnaughts. Two of their better 2020 players will slide into backup roles for Lakeland this year. Even in a plague year, where Lakeland had their worst team in 28 years, Lakeland beats VC. Regardless, I’m taking about this and any other non-plague year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, badrouter said: Which quarter of a game between Berkeley Prep and Lakeland would Lakeland put a running clock on BP? 1st? 2nd? Or, god forbid, 3rd? Considering I have the two teams separated by about 10 spots I would be shocked if that were to happen but I don't think they actually play But then again many people bitched about where I placed Lakeland in the poll last year but never acknowledged me being right for not having Lakeland in the top 25 so people should just take my rankings for what they are, more accurate than 99% of the people can do for Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, badrouter said: Berkeley Prep beat Victory Christian by six points. VC is a de facto JV team for Lakeland, coached almost exclusively by ex-Dreadnaughts. Two of their better 2020 players will slide into backup roles for Lakeland this year. Even in a plague year, where Lakeland had their worst team in 28 years, Lakeland beats VC. Regardless, I’m taking about this and any other non-plague year. And Columbia put up 21 points on TCA while AHP scored 0 against TCA There will always be examples of teams playing certain teams better than others just because of matchups (which is what people on these boards tell me all the time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Considering I have the two teams separated by about 10 spots I would be shocked if that were to happen but I don't think they actually play But then again many people bitched about where I placed Lakeland in the poll last year but never acknowledged me being right for not having Lakeland in the top 25 so people should just take my rankings for what they are, more accurate than 99% of the people can do for Florida I criticized you for having Auburndale and Lake Gibson ahead of Lakeland last year, not for having 25 other teams in general ahead of them. Lakeland beat Lake Gibson, who was clearly the only other strong-ish team in the county. Again, one plague-ridden season should not be seen as a glimpse of the future. Wait until August, look at the rosters and then look at the results. The plague made many things very weird, and very atypical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted July 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, badrouter said: Berkeley Prep Regardless, I’m taking about this and any other non-plague year. If you say so. Berkeley Prep has some nice players. Lakeland might or might not win but kidding about running-clocks is just that. Kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, badrouter said: I criticized you for having Auburndale and Lake Gibson ahead of Lakeland last year, not for having 25 other teams in general ahead of them. Lakeland beat Lake Gibson, who was clearly the only other strong-ish team in the county. Again, one plague-ridden season should not be seen as a glimpse of the future. Wait until August, look at the rosters and then look at the results. The plague made many things very weird, and very atypical. It was the same way with Columbia but most people want to inaccurately claim they can't compete with good teams even though how many teams in the state of Florida have beaten TCA multiple times in the past decade? How many teams have double digit wins over Bolles home and away in the state? Average teams don't beat those schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, badrouter said: I criticized you for having Auburndale and Lake Gibson ahead of Lakeland last year, not for having 25 other teams in general ahead of them. Lakeland beat Lake Gibson, who was clearly the only other strong-ish team in the county. Again, one plague-ridden season should not be seen as a glimpse of the future. Wait until August, look at the rosters and then look at the results. The plague made many things very weird, and very atypical. I remember you specifically saying that I had Lakeland WAY too low in the poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 Considering where they finished I may have had them a bit high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, RedZone said: If you say so. Berkeley Prep has some nice players. Lakeland might or might not win but kidding about running-clocks is just that. Kidding. In any non-plague year, Lakeland would be a minimum 35 point favorite, which is the running clock margin. In Florida, the running clock is unusually aggressive, to the point where once it kicks in, the game is effectively over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, badrouter said: In any non-plague year, Lakeland would be a minimum 35 point favorite, which is the running clock margin. In Florida, the running clock is unusually aggressive, to the point where once it kicks in, the game is effectively over. I would be fine with no running clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Considering where they finished I may have had them a bit high Let me help you out here: The plague year is over. Don’t use it to inform predictions for normal years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, badrouter said: Let me help you out here: The plague year is over. Don’t use it to inform predictions for normal years. I use a lot of factors for my rankings Past seasons is only a small part of it but if I apply that rule to Lakeland it will apply to EVERY team Lakeland isn't gonna get a free pass but then drag a team like Columbia for their struggles last year but I'll be sure to remind this when I do release the first poll of the season that everything will be applied down the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Columbiafan said: I use a lot of factors for my rankings Past seasons is only a small part of it but if I apply that rule to Lakeland it will apply to EVERY team Lakeland isn't gonna get a free pass but then drag a team like Columbia for their struggles last year but I'll be sure to remind this when I do release the first poll of the season that everything will be applied down the middle I haven’t suggested Lakeland should have any ranking at all. I acknowledge they had a poor season, with only one win over a quality team. I’m just pointing out that there are several teams getting mention that, in the reality which we will see in a matter of weeks, are not remotely as close in talent. The plague year should not be held as the basis for sweeping conclusions about the state of a program. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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