Rippers Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Troll said: BTW: 80+ % of 1st and 2nd second Trimester vaccine recipients... ....STILL had spontaneous abortions This is an outright lie. You keep repeating it in the hope that someone will eventually believe it. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-724952235185 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, Rippers said: This is an outright lie. You keep repeating it in the hope that someone will eventually believe it. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-724952235185 Cool fact check....🤣💩🤣 So if pregnancies are waaaaaay down.... "The estimated COVID impact on births is thus twice as large – an excess decline of 8.6 percent. We estimate the excess decline in births potentially attributable to the early stages of the COVID pandemic for women by age group." ...and the spontaneous abortions are "about the same"... 🤔 That Jab must be doing one hell of a job now...😲 PS: ...unless you got another "Fake Fact Check" 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 54 minutes ago, Rippers said: This is an outright lie. You keep repeating it in the hope that someone will eventually believe it. OK Dumbass... Now that you sat in the corner long enough, I'll give you a cookie 🍪 It's not your fault they try to hide the numbers on you...👍 (like how else you gonna call those REAL RESULTS an "outright lie" 👌) NOW IT'S RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU !!! Go ahead and remove your Dunce cap....make sure you READ THE FINE PRINT... and you have just VERIFIED an 82% 1st and 2nd trimester spontaneous abortion rate for the jab. 👍 PS: Now your only problem is going to be having to EXPLAIN just EXACTLY WHY....you know... ...that they tried to 'bury' the number with their bullshit 💩 cover 'mistake'... 🍪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, Troll said: Go ahead and remove your Dunce cap....make sure you READ THE FINE PRINT... The fine print does not verify your statement. It also says that there was a 12% rate of spontaneous abortion under 20 weeks, which is the same percent of the pre-covid, non vaccine spontaneous abortion rate. 80% of all spontaneous abortion occurs in the first or second trimester, regardless of a vaccine. If the vaccine has an 80% rate of causing spontaneous abortions in pregnancy, there would be international outrage that they could not hide. I personally know five pregnant women who got vaccinated early on and all five are having normal pregancies. Wow, what the odds of that happening? According to you, four of the would have already lost their baby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Rippers said: The fine print does not verify your statement. <<wanna bet ? 🤣 It also says that there was a 12% rate of spontaneous abortion under 20 weeks,<<<Yeah you like that don't you 🙄 ...at least you know where you where fooled now 👍 which is the same percent of the pre-covid, non vaccine spontaneous abortion rate.<<<you saying it was some 'target' ??? 🤔 80% of all spontaneous abortion occurs in the first or second trimester, regardless of a vaccine. <You just make that 💩 up? LOL << It's 82% of the jabbed ....per this study...👍 If the vaccine has an 80% rate of causing spontaneous abortions in pregnancy, there would be international outrage that they could not hide. <<<there is........just not on your newsfeed 👌 I personally know five pregnant women who got vaccinated early on and all five are having normal pregancies.<<<try keeping your dick in your pants Wow, what the odds of that happening? <<it's called hyperbole math 👌According to you, four of the would have already lost their baby.<<<you mean According to the "New England Journal of Medicine" .....THE ACTUAL RESULTS......and a whole bunch of very highly qualified doctors that signed their name to it 👍 expand and See above in RED....🙄 NOW DO THE MATH....👍 104 spontaneous abortions, out of 127 1st + 2nd trimester jabs given = ??? % 🤔 -----------------VS------------------------------ 104 spontaneous abortions, out of 127 1st + 2nd trimester jabs given + PLUS + 700 3rd semester jabs given that have nothing to do with 1st and 2nd trimester results, have already timed out of that class, and have zero capability of even impacting those numbers (They would be considered either stillborn or pre-mature births... not spontaneously aborted) = fake 12.6 rate % of a "group" that we can just call.........."our newly made up 🐮💩 group" 👍 ------------------------------------------------- PS: they might as well have "accidentally" included "your dick" in the denominator 🤣. And next time read the fine print like I advised ..🙄. BTW: upon review....I even told you so.....in my first post, with the claim....😉 On 7/4/2021 at 12:31 PM, Troll said: PS: I also agree with you about reading deeper than the headline.... 👆that headline is a % somewhere in the teens (by a statistical fail) check it out... https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2104983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 Try reading this one...same data, same table but with a correct interpretation: https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/preliminary-data-indicate-that-covid-19-vaccines-dont-increase-the-risk-of-pregnancy-related-adverse-outcomes/ And unlike you, I do not make up my stats: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532992/ "Moreover, 80% of early pregnancy loss occurs in the first trimester. [1][2] The risk of miscarriage decreases after 12 weeks gestation." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Rippers said: Try reading this one...same data, same table but with a correct interpretation:👈<<<🤣 https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/preliminary-data-indicate-that-covid-19-vaccines-dont-increase-the-risk-of-pregnancy-related-adverse-outcomes/ Dude... how about you just try admitting That 82% of those jabbed in the NEJM study that were 1st and 2nd trimester spontaneously aborted ??? too much reality for you ? 🤷♂️ Fake fact checks won't help you...you can't even get past the first sentence without tossing bullshit ...🤦♀️ DETAILS Flawed Reasoning: Comparing the number of miscarriages to the number of pregnancies with positive outcomes.... PSSSSSssssssst....NOBODY is trying to compare miscarriages to healthy outcomes 🤪...duh...just vaxxed to the resulting immediate abortion rate 👍 ...ridiculous fail in trying to obfuscate, with yet another "False fact check" 👌 2 hours ago, Rippers said: And unlike you, I do not make up my stats: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532992/ "Moreover, 80% of early pregnancy loss occurs in the first trimester. [1][2] The risk of miscarriage decreases after 12 weeks gestation." No you ignore the actual stats... ....and look to cover with BS 💩 oh and FAKE fact checks 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 OH...and I almost forgot... Remember what johnny says...🤔 "Thanks for playing, but don't forget your door prize on the way out"...🤣 2 hours ago, Troll said: PS: Now your only problem is going to be having to EXPLAIN just EXACTLY WHY....you know... ...that they tried to 'bury' the number with their bullshit 💩 cover 'mistake'... 🍪 👍 mmmmmm......cooooookie prize 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Rippers said: If the vaccine has an 80% rate of causing spontaneous abortions in pregnancy, there would be international outrage like yours now I'm certain 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Troll said: like yours now I'm certain What do I have to be outraged about? I am able to hold a disagreement without resorting to insults, name calling and claims of victory. Can you? Sometimes it hard to tell if you're just playing a role or if you really think the way you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Rippers said: What do I have to be outraged about? an 82% ACTUAL rate of spontaneous abortions for those women getting the shot .... as you said... when that's true there should be outrage... go figure. 1 hour ago, Rippers said: I am able to hold a disagreement without resorting to insults, name calling and claims of victory. Can you? Absolutely and point well taken 👍 I can even apologize for calling you a dunce 🙄 Happy to refrain from it, now that you pointed out your own approach, but as a simple explanation..... When someone appears to "intentionally obfuscate" with "false fact checks" repeatedly, while outright ignoring the "ACTUAL data" itself (and calling me an outright liar with some agenda to make peope believe some lies)....well... 1 hour ago, Rippers said: Sometimes it hard to tell if you're just playing a role or if you really think the way you do. I can agree here... 😉 PS: "My thinking" (which I have not even offered here 🙄) is NOT the issue... ...with these "Actual results" 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 BTW: If you would have asked "my thinking".....🤣 my first question would have been... wait for it... What's the miscarriage rate for those 1st + 2nd trimester unvaxxed moms to be... that get ACTUAL covid ???.... 🤔 ...and my guess would be.... about 82%... go figure. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 3:27 PM, Rippers said: This is an outright lie. You keep repeating it WELL SHIAT 💩.... Just look 👀 at that update Looks like the US Covid results got some MAJOR ISSUES NOW.... "CDC REPORTS More Vaccine Deaths ( last couple weeks) Than COVID Deaths" Covid Deaths: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html Vax Deaths: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html GO FIGURE... PS: Ruh Roh Scooby... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Troll said: WELL SHIAT 💩.... Just look 👀 at that update Looks like the US Covid results got some MAJOR ISSUES NOW.... "CDC REPORTS More Vaccine Deaths ( last couple weeks) Than COVID Deaths" Covid Deaths: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html Vax Deaths: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.ht ml GO FIGURE... PS: Ruh Roh Scooby... And your point for quoting me is? This has nothing to do with your spontaneous abortion stance, so why are you quoting me? Your two links do nothing to support your newest claim. Covid, particularly the Delta variant, is on the rise and it is primarily rising in areas with lower vaccination rates. This might help though: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-vaccine/fact-check-more-people-have-not-died-from-covid-19-vaccines-than-from-the-disease-itself-idUSL2N2O01W8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, Rippers said: And your point for quoting me is? Because You think people lie instead of reading the data STRAIGHT from the CDC itself...👍 ...oh and because you always.... Fake fact check 👌 23 minutes ago, Rippers said: Your two links do nothing to support your newest claim. Actually, They absolutely do....🤣 you miss it ? here you go.... "CDC REPORTS More Vaccine Deaths ( last couple weeks) Than COVID Deaths" Covid Deaths: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html Vax Deaths: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html PS: now go count the last two weeks 👍 25 minutes ago, Rippers said: This might help though: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-vaccine/fact-check-more-people-have-not-died-from-covid-19-vaccines-than-from-the-disease-itself-idUSL2N2O01W8 Sorry.... your Fake fact check is no help... Not talking about internet twits 🤣 Talking about the CDC's OWN RESULTS...👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, Troll said: Talking about the CDC's OWN RESULTS. Well, someone obviously learned from the previous presidential administration---if you don't believe a fact check, deny it. OK then, from your own source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 You can also look at it from this perspective: Most Covid deaths of late are from unvaccinated people. Vaccinated people still die (shocker) and remember, elderly people were among the earliest vaccinated. That does not mean they died because of the vaccine. If I get into a car accident and die tonight, it was not the vaccine that killed me, although people like you would probably try to add my death to your argument numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just now, Rippers said: Well, someone obviously learned from the previous presidential administration---if you don't believe a fact check, deny it.<<<no one is denying you picked the wrong fact check fake...👍 OK then, from your own source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html<<next time read your own links...👌 STILL Doesn't explain why more people died from the vax than from Covid for the last two weeks By their own numbers ....🙄 PS: You forget how to do your own math ? You didn't bother counting did you...🤣 BTW: Sounds like you also forgot, it was the previous administration that rushed these vaxes to market 🤓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rippers said: You can also look at it from this perspective: Most Covid deaths of late are from unvaccinated people. False and you lie with no real data to support your fake claims 🤣 PS: I just gave you the "OF LATE" CDC numbers...👍 5 minutes ago, Rippers said: If I get into a car accident and die tonight, it was not the vaccine that killed me, although people like you would probably try to add my death to your argument numbers. you mean "people like yourself" and your fact check fakes...🤣 PS: BTW: LIAR....🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Troll said: with no real data to support your fake claims If I post anything, you will claim its fake and then you will post something that does not support your claim either. But just for funsies: https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Rippers said: If I post anything, you will claim its fake and then you will post something that does not support your claim either. But just for funsies: https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187 Sure...Why not....🤷♂️ You need the reading lessons...🤣 first line... "An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows " to be read as...since CDC couldn't say...(5th line)"The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data." We made our own 'bullshit analysis' up 👍 With no link to any analysis or data 👌 PS: and since the "real reason" they have no data to calculate... is because the CDC STOPPED tracking "breakthru cases" in May, You have been proven to have fallen for "fake news headlines" yet again 🤣 BTW: got any more bullshit??? You seem fooled by everything 🤓 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Troll said: You have been proven to have fallen for "fake news headlines" yet again 🤣 BTW: got any more bullshit??? You seem fooled by everything You're falling back on insults instead of making a logical argument to refute my stance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rippers said: You're falling back on insults instead of making a logical argument to refute my stance. I have no problem insulting a Reuters Bullshit article, that they assume their audience is stupid enough to fall for...🤣 And pointing out that you fell for it.... is helping you 👍 PS: Anything to avoid the actual CDC RESULTS and ACTUAL DATA, and countering with HEADLINE "fake analysis" of no data, IS the most common response tho...🤣 Oh and BTW.... WHAT GOOD IS EVEN ZERO COVID DEATHS AFTER VACCINATED... if we are now getting more Deaths from the vaccine itself than from ALL COVID (vaxed and unvaxed) COMBINED***....🤓 ***See latest actual CDC data 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, Rippers said: then you will post something that does not support your claim either. But just for funsies: Just for Funsies... count the Covid deaths from the CDC... Then count the Vax deaths from the CDC. What you got for the last two weeks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Troll said: count the Covid deaths from the CDC... Then count the Vax deaths from the CDC. What you got for the last two weeks ? Cool story. You Tube is is a credible source in tin foil hat world, I guess. Its becoming glaring obvious that you're the only one around here who believes the sludge you post and you're only posting to get reactions. Carry on, but leave me out of your world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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