RedZone Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, RedZone said: That simply isn't true either. Louisiana has plenty of opportunities to get a team ranked in a Top 25 poll. Not an issue. bergen catholic hasn't done shit in the last 4 years....not sure why this year would be any different. Barely beating some weak bnu teams certainly doesn't make anyone elite. 2020 1 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) team preview trend New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 4 5-1 3-1 (t 1st) 3-1 59.2 38.8 18-20 WINS: #132 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (24-21), #243 DePaul Catholic (Wayne, NJ) (34-10), #240 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (22-15), #1422 Pope John XXIII (Sparta, NJ) (42-7), #3256 Paramus Catholic (Paramus, NJ) (37-0), LOSSES: #415 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (21-20) 2019 6 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) team preview trend New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 4 5-4 2-2 (t 3rd) 2-3 45.6 43 59-45 WINS: #95 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (23-17), #1359 Imhotep Charter (Philadelphia, PA) (25-6), #1364 Paramus Catholic (Paramus, NJ) (50-12), #3091 Irvington (NJ) (42-6), #3791 Pope John XXIII (Sparta, NJ) (35-14), LOSSES: #65 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (33-30), #95 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (24-7), #122 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (28-10), #388 DePaul Catholic (Wayne, NJ) (31-28) 2018 2 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) team preview trend New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 4 10-2 3-1 (t 1st) 5-2 55 38.7 82-56 WINS: #79 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (24-20), #152 Grayson (Loganville, GA) (34-22), #401 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (14-13), #401 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (35-17), #424 Archbishop Wood (Warminster, PA) (21-7), #853 DePaul Catholic (Wayne, NJ) (42-7), #2320 Pope John XXIII (Sparta, NJ) (14-6), #2573 Seton Hall Prep (West Orange, NJ) (42-6), #2607 Irvington (NJ) (47-7), #3605 Paramus Catholic (Paramus, NJ) (42-0), LOSSES: #79 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (13-0), #248 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (34-7) 2017 1 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) team preview trend New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 4 10-2 4-0 (1st) 7-0 69.7 51.9 84-54 WINS: #67 DePaul Catholic (Wayne, NJ) (48-27), #103 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (41-30), #140 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (41-14), #140 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (44-7), #402 Pope John XXIII (Sparta, NJ) (20-19), #503 Paramus Catholic (Paramus, NJ) (31-14), #777 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (29-26), #1299 Delbarton (Morristown, NJ) (41-16), #1502 St. Augustine Prep (Richland, NJ) (56-21), #2384 Seton Hall Prep (West Orange, NJ) (28-7), LOSSES: #1 Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) (62-14), #144 Archbishop Wood (Warminster, PA) (27-21) bergen catholic's "BIG" OOS game this year is Archbishop Hoban, Ohio. Hoban lost just about everyone from last year and doesn't appear to have much left in the tank.....saw they had a 2 guys offered at 247sports in 2022, 2023. They won't be anything like last year though. Then bergen catholic plays Smyrna, DE...alrighty! That's fantastic! Hoban COLLEGE PROSPECTS LOST TO GRADUATIONDarryl Peterson 6'3" 235 Senior LB http://calpreps.com/3halfstars.jpgA.J. Kirk 6'0" 200 Senior S http://calpreps.com/3halfstars.jpgBrayden Fox 6'3" 200 Senior WR http://calpreps.com/3stars.jpgDamon Ollison 6'0" 215 Senior LB http://calpreps.com/3stars.jpgLuke Bauer 6'0" 230 Senior LB http://calpreps.com/2stars.jpg http://calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2021/preview_view.pl?school=Archbishop_Hoban_(Akron,_OH) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Interesting. Here's RedZone using preseason polls to push his preferred narrative. 👇 Plant earned that Preseason ranking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, RedZone said: That simply isn't true either. Louisiana has plenty of opportunities to get a team ranked in a Top 25 poll. Not an issue. bergen catholic hasn't done shit in the last 4 years....not sure why this year would be any different. Barely beating some weak bnu teams certainly doesn't make anyone elite. 2020 1 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) team preview trend New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 4 5-1 3-1 (t 1st) 3-1 59.2 38.8 18-20 WINS: #132 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (24-21), #243 DePaul Catholic (Wayne, NJ) (34-10), #240 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (22-15), #1422 Pope John XXIII (Sparta, NJ) (42-7), #3256 Paramus Catholic (Paramus, NJ) (37-0), LOSSES: #415 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (21-20) 2019 6 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) team preview trend New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 4 5-4 2-2 (t 3rd) 2-3 45.6 43 59-45 WINS: #95 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (23-17), #1359 Imhotep Charter (Philadelphia, PA) (25-6), #1364 Paramus Catholic (Paramus, NJ) (50-12), #3091 Irvington (NJ) (42-6), #3791 Pope John XXIII (Sparta, NJ) (35-14), LOSSES: #65 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (33-30), #95 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (24-7), #122 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (28-10), #388 DePaul Catholic (Wayne, NJ) (31-28) 2018 2 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) team preview trend New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 4 10-2 3-1 (t 1st) 5-2 55 38.7 82-56 WINS: #79 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (24-20), #152 Grayson (Loganville, GA) (34-22), #401 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (14-13), #401 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (35-17), #424 Archbishop Wood (Warminster, PA) (21-7), #853 DePaul Catholic (Wayne, NJ) (42-7), #2320 Pope John XXIII (Sparta, NJ) (14-6), #2573 Seton Hall Prep (West Orange, NJ) (42-6), #2607 Irvington (NJ) (47-7), #3605 Paramus Catholic (Paramus, NJ) (42-0), LOSSES: #79 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (13-0), #248 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (34-7) 2017 1 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) team preview trend New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 4 10-2 4-0 (1st) 7-0 69.7 51.9 84-54 WINS: #67 DePaul Catholic (Wayne, NJ) (48-27), #103 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (41-30), #140 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (41-14), #140 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (44-7), #402 Pope John XXIII (Sparta, NJ) (20-19), #503 Paramus Catholic (Paramus, NJ) (31-14), #777 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) (29-26), #1299 Delbarton (Morristown, NJ) (41-16), #1502 St. Augustine Prep (Richland, NJ) (56-21), #2384 Seton Hall Prep (West Orange, NJ) (28-7), LOSSES: #1 Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) (62-14), #144 Archbishop Wood (Warminster, PA) (27-21) So you just have a random hate boner for Bergen Catholic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, RedZone said: Plant earned that Preseason ranking. Even Plant beat bergen catholic in 2011, the year before the 2012 Preseason poll.........no brainer. 2 Plant [Henry B.] (Tampa, FL) team preview Florida 8A District 6 8A 14-1 3-0 (1st) 8-0 70 40.3 128-53 WINS: #21 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) (12-7), #62 Miramar (FL) (31-20), #301 Fletcher [Duncan U.] (Neptune Beach, FL) (26-7), #392 Hillsborough (Tampa, FL) (36-6), #414 Dr. Phillips (Orlando, FL) (49-13), #902 Jesuit (Tampa, FL) (34-20), #968 East Lake (Tarpon Springs, FL) (28-21), #1121 Robinson (Tampa, FL) (51-9), #1771 Tampa Bay Tech (Tampa, FL) (36-0), #2095 Alonso (Tampa, FL) (48-6), #2153 Boone [William R.] (Orlando, FL) (54-21), #3412 Wharton (Tampa, FL) (37-19), #3936 Brandon (FL) (59-21), #6082 Bloomingdale (Valrico, FL) (53-7), LOSSES: #14 Armwood (Seffner, FL) (21-0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: Plant earned that Preseason ranking. Suuuure. 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: So you just have a random hate boner for Bergen Catholic? Just talking Preseason Top 25, skippy...nothing more. Couple of those other teams don't belong either. There's much better out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, RedZone said: Plant earned that Preseason ranking. I believe what the poster named *check notes* RedZone said in his brief moment of honesty. Preseason rankings are for selling narratives. 👇 27 minutes ago, RedZone said: Preseason Polls have always been about "selling", not DREAMS.. Sell bergen catholic......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, RedZone said: bergen catholic's "BIG" OOS game this year is Archbishop Hoban, Ohio. Hoban lost just about everyone from last year and doesn't appear to have much left in the tank.....saw they had a 2 guys offered at 247sports in 2022, 2023. They won't be anything like last year though. Yet Plant "earned" their preseason ranking in 2012 based on 2011. Archbishop Hoban? No sauce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Atticus Finch said: I believe what the post named *check notes* RedZone said in his brief moment of honesty. Preseason rankings are for selling narratives. 👇 Are you buying bergen catholic?....or, passing. I'm passing. Sue me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 I mean Bergen and SJR are 2 of the most consistent NJ teams and they do pretty well year in and year out... And they play in a tough league and unlike OLU,Servite,SM and Jserra they pull their weight. And don't coat tail... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Atticus Finch said: Yet Plant "earned" their preseason ranking in 2012 based on 2011. Archbishop Hoban? No sauce. Plant retuned a hell of lot more than Hoban........why are you being SO silly, man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, RedZone said: Are you buying bergen catholic?....or, passing. I'm passing. Sue me! I pass on almost all uses of preseason rankings. Especially from cheap agenda-peddlers like yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, RedZone said: Plant retuned a hell of lot more than Hoban........ Plant stunk in 2012. People bring up preaseason rankings, 9 years after the season ended, for only one reason: they can't use the results from the *actual* season to make their point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Atticus Finch said: I pass Me too.... bergen blows.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: Plant retuned a hell of lot more than Hoban........ So first it was about "earning it" but now it's about returning players. No mention of, you know, the *actual* result of that season to evaluate teams. Nope. Let's keep pushing that agenda instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, RedZone said: Me too.... bergen blows.... Lmao 😂 u are deranged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, RedZone said: bergen blows.... They'd probably be one of the best teams in Louisiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: bergen catholic's "BIG" OOS game this year is Archbishop Hoban, Ohio. Hoban lost just about everyone from last year and doesn't appear to have much left in the tank.....saw they had a 2 guys offered at 247sports in 2022, 2023. They won't be anything like last year though. Then bergen catholic plays Smyrna, DE...alrighty! That's fantastic! Hoban COLLEGE PROSPECTS LOST TO GRADUATIONDarryl Peterson 6'3" 235 Senior LB http://calpreps.com/3halfstars.jpgA.J. Kirk 6'0" 200 Senior S http://calpreps.com/3halfstars.jpgBrayden Fox 6'3" 200 Senior WR http://calpreps.com/3stars.jpgDamon Ollison 6'0" 215 Senior LB http://calpreps.com/3stars.jpgLuke Bauer 6'0" 230 Senior LB http://calpreps.com/2stars.jpg http://calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2021/preview_view.pl?school=Archbishop_Hoban_(Akron,_OH) Plant lost the house from their title team. That’s why they got bombed out of the 2nd round by 3 scores to a team who didn’t win state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, RedZone said: Me too.... bergen blows.... Sydir might be one of best DT in nation by the time he’s a senior, 6’6 320 pounds then you got Jaden Gould , one of top DBs in country QB Angeli is a 4 star Notre Dame commit Bellamy Another DB is top I’m state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, RedZone said: Plant earned that Preseason ranking. 6 minutes ago, RedZone said: Plant retuned a hell of lot more than Hoban........ Plant [Henry B.] (Tampa, FL) Plant returned only 9 starters. They didn't return their leading passer, rusher, receiver, lineman or defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, RedZone said: Just talking Preseason Top 25, skippy...nothing more. Couple of those other teams don't belong either. There's much better out there. Then what teams do deserve it? If theres so many teams that don't deserve it then what teams do? You cant say this then have nothing to replace it with. I personally don't think Servite deserves to be in the top 25.... You know who I'd have in over them? Corona Centennial or Allen... based solely on consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 50 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: Okay if that is the case, what is the justification for CIF not permitting MD to play these teams? Each of them have a few PGs on their rosters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Yet Plant "earned" their preseason ranking in 2012 based on 2011. Archbishop Hoban? No sauce. Hoban is not in the Preseason Top 25, Finch....so there's that, I guess. Why would they be they lost everyone. Big game for bergen this year though..... bergen catholic is in the Preseason Top 25. What did they do last year...oh yeah, lost to 2-3 donald bosco. 8 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ) team preview trend New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 4 2-3 2-2 (t 3rd) 2-3 42.5 45.8 21-11 WINS: #64 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ) (21-20), #3256 Paramus Catholic (Paramus, NJ) (34-13), LOSSES: #104 Delbarton (Morristown, NJ) (27-21), #132 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) (34-14), #240 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) (21-7) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: So you just have a random hate boner for Bergen Catholic? Plus he forgot they have a reecent OOS win vs Grayson, which is a perennial power public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 56 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: Okay if that is the case, what is the justification for CIF not permitting MD to play these teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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