Michigan has the youngest coaching staff in power 5 history.

[Nolebull813]

13 hours ago, THEOC89 said:

How about the fact that Between 1992 and 2015 When Harbaugh Got there Michigan won 10 or more games 7 times including 12 games 1 Time… and never played in the BCS title game (4 Team Era Started in 2014)….

Harbaugh has done that 5 Times already including winning 12+ Games 2 Times… And he has now Made Back to Back Playoff Appearances in the 4 team ERA….

Throw in his last year at Stanford, and His last 9 full seasons (Not Including COVID) Coaching College Football he won 10 games 6 times including 12+ games 3 Times….

Lloyd Carr won 10 or more games 6 times in 12 seasons including a split Natty and the great Bo Schembeckler did this 11 Times in 20 years so Harbaugh is on track to surpass Bo who never won a Natty at Michigan…

He is historically Successful amongst Michigan’s Greatest Coaches….

And let’s be real about Michigan…. Yes, they have 11 National Championships but 10 of those were before 1950…. 🤣

One important thing to point out was Carr and Schembeckler played one less game most of the times. 

[Nolebull813]

On what planet are these numbers good, or pointing towards a trend that things will be different?

 

From Sept 2015-Nov 2021 Harbaugh was 

 

0-5 in bowl games 

3-9 against the 2 arch rivals 

2-13 against AP top 10 teams

 

Those were the facts presented at that time. You can’t twist those facts into a pretzel. Because any excuse you could come up with would be in complete contradiction to the entire 7 years of bad results when it mattered beforehand 

[Atticus Finch]

6 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

On what planet are these numbers good, or pointing towards a trend that things will be different?

From Sept 2015-Nov 2021 Harbaugh was 

0-5 in bowl games 

3-9 against the 2 arch rivals 

2-13 against AP top 10 teams

Those were the facts presented at that time. You can’t twist those facts into a pretzel. Because any excuse you could come up with would be in complete contradiction to the entire 7 years of bad results when it mattered beforehand 

You're trying to defend your laziness and stupidity by refusing to acknowledge how bad it was when he got there.

His two biggest rivals were in the middle of perhaps their greatest run of coaches/success in history.

Here's a comparison to the the previous 7 years:

2008-2014

46-42 (24-32 in Big Ten)

1-3 in bowl games

2-12 vs. Michigan State and Ohio State

1-10 vs. AP Top 10 teams

[Atticus Finch]

15 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Those were the facts presented at that time. You can’t twist those facts into a pretzel. Because any excuse you could come up with would be in complete contradiction to the entire 7 years of bad results when it mattered beforehand 

Again, you're stupid and lazy.

Jim Harbaugh had a .723% winning percentage and had three 10-win seasons before 2021.

You're the product of a culture that thinks anybody who isn't #1 is a loser. Again, dumb and lazy.

 

[Nolebull813]

1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said:

You're trying to defend your laziness and stupidity by refusing to acknowledge how bad it was when he got there.

His two biggest rivals were in the middle of perhaps their greatest run of coaches/success in history.

Here's a comparison to the the previous 7 years:

2008-2014

46-42 (24-32 in Big Ten)

1-3 in bowl games

2-12 vs. Michigan State and Ohio State

1-10 vs. AP Top 10 teams

So what you are saying is the standard for success at UM is to just be a little better than the fired coaches who came before him? 

[Nolebull813]

1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said:

Again, you're stupid and lazy.

Jim Harbaugh had a .723% winning percentage and had three 10-win seasons before 2021.

You're the product of a culture that thinks anybody who isn't #1 is a loser. Again, dumb and lazy.

 

I don’t think that. I’m only going based on his results from 2015 leading up to the Ohio State game last year. The numbers were atrocious. If you are comparing them to fired coaches then yeah they aren’t as bad. But when you are trying to demand your results match your prestige and expectations, they fell flat. 
 

Just saying he is better than Rodriguez and Hoke is a backhanded compliment. 

[Atticus Finch]

21 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

So what you are saying is the standard for success at UM is to just be a little better than the fired coaches who came before him? 

He was *a lot* better, dipshit.

2008-14

46-42 (24-32)

2015-21

71-24 (42-18)

[Atticus Finch]

18 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

I don’t think that.

You clearly do.

[Atticus Finch]

18 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

I’m only going based on his results from 2015 leading up to the Ohio State game last year.

I know.

You're cherry-picking every step of the way.

Doesn't matter.

He was really good before that.

[Atticus Finch]

19 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

The numbers were atrocious.

They objectively weren't.

If you think a .723% winning percentage after taking over a .500 program is atrocious then you're a clown.

[Atticus Finch]

19 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

If you are comparing them to fired coaches then yeah they aren’t as bad.

I'm comparing them to every coach in America. He was top 10 in winning percentage in the entire country.

[Atticus Finch]

22 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

But when you are trying to demand your results match your prestige and expectations, they fell flat. 

The results were far better than Michigan should've expected at the time and against the teams they were playing.

Again, you're stupid and lazy.

[Atticus Finch]

21 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Just saying he is better than Rodriguez and Hoke is a backhanded compliment. 

But that's not what I was saying.

You lost.

You look like a clown.

Deal with it.

[THEOC89]

2 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

On what planet are these numbers good, or pointing towards a trend that things will be different?

 

From Sept 2015-Nov 2021 Harbaugh was 

 

0-5 in bowl games 

3-9 against the 2 arch rivals 

2-13 against AP top 10 teams

 

Those were the facts presented at that time. You can’t twist those facts into a pretzel. Because any excuse you could come up with would be in complete contradiction to the entire 7 years of bad results when it mattered beforehand 

The Fact you are missing is Michigan has not even been close to the same level as OSU for Years and Years and you are basing wether Harbaugh is an Elite coach based on Beating OSU…

Since Tressel took over in 2001 OSU has won 10 or more games every year except for 3 (Excluding the 7-1 COVID Year)…. 2 Times under Tressel and Once under Luke Fickel, 0 under Urban Meyer….. 

That is 17 times in 20 years that OSU has won 10 or more games…. Michigan has only done this 12 times in the last 30 years with Harbaugh doing it 5 times…. During this span OSU is 17-3 against Michigan with Harbaugh winning 2 of those…. With Both of Harbaugh’s wins being in Top 5 Matchups with OSU….

So it’s not like OSU hasn’t been a top team for 2 decades and the cupboard was never bare at OSU like Michigan and none of the OSU’s coaches had to re-build the program like Harbaugh has at Michigan….

Harbaugh has now re-built Michigan, Destroyed OSU in top 5 matchups in Back to Back Years and made the 4 Team playoff Twice….

Harbaugh’s Record against OSU in 7 games is 2-5 (Including a 2 OT Loss) Bo Schembeckler’s record in his first 7 games against OSU was 2-4-1…. Bo’s Record in Bowl Games his first 10 years…. O-7…. 

Harbaugh is right on Par with the Greatest Coaches Michigan has ever had….

 

[Nolebull813]

1 hour ago, THEOC89 said:

The Fact you are missing is Michigan has not even been close to the same level as OSU for Years and Years and you are basing wether Harbaugh is an Elite coach based on Beating OSU…

Since Tressel took over in 2001 OSU has won 10 or more games every year except for 3 (Excluding the 7-1 COVID Year)…. 2 Times under Tressel and Once under Luke Fickel, 0 under Urban Meyer….. 

That is 17 times in 20 years that OSU has won 10 or more games…. Michigan has only done this 12 times in the last 30 years with Harbaugh doing it 5 times…. During this span OSU is 17-3 against Michigan with Harbaugh winning 2 of those…. With Both of Harbaugh’s wins being in Top 5 Matchups with OSU….

So it’s not like OSU hasn’t been a top team for 2 decades and the cupboard was never bare at OSU like Michigan and none of the OSU’s coaches had to re-build the program like Harbaugh has at Michigan….

Harbaugh has now re-built Michigan, Destroyed OSU in top 5 matchups in Back to Back Years and made the 4 Team playoff Twice….

Harbaugh’s Record against OSU in 7 games is 2-5 (Including a 2 OT Loss) Bo Schembeckler’s record in his first 7 games against OSU was 2-4-1…. Bo’s Record in Bowl Games his first 10 years…. O-7…. 

Harbaugh is right on Par with the Greatest Coaches Michigan has ever had….

 

But every coach is judged by their results against their rivals. No one cares if he beat Indiana and Northwestern. 
 

im telling you that 0-5 in bowls, 3-9 vs rivals and 2-13 vs top 10 teams is not just bad but really bad. There’s no way to twist those numbers into something good. Ever since last years Ohio State game he has been enjoying a lot of success. The success Michigan envisioned when they hired him 8 years ago. But before that game, it was a lot of letdowns. Losing all the good games and racking up wins against nobodies shouldn’t be acceptable at any so called 5 star football prestige institution. 

[RedZone]

Jim is now 2-5 vs Ohio St 

Naturally, Atticus Finch shovels up a past post from the cemetery and blows Jim in public.

 

 

 

 

[Atticus Finch]

1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said:

But every coach is judged by their results against their rivals.

By bozos like you. And without understanding the context.

Michigan's rival was way better than them for a *long* time. Harbaugh had them going toe-to-toe with them in year two (2016) and by years 7-8 (2021-22) beating them by multiple scores.

[Atticus Finch]

1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said:

im telling you that 0-5 in bowls, 3-9 vs rivals and 2-13 vs top 10 teams is not just bad but really bad.

And what I'm telling you is that your analysis skills are not just bad, but really bad.

[Atticus Finch]

1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said:

There’s no way to twist those numbers into something good. 

But I did and I got it right while you got it wrong.

There's no way to twist this.

You claimed that they were not serious about national championships and Big Ten titles and they haven't missed a playoff and haven't failed to win the Big Ten since.

[Atticus Finch]

1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said:

Losing all the good games and racking up wins against nobodies shouldn’t be acceptable at any so called 5 star football prestige institution. 

Something that losers like you will never understand is that life is mostly a process. It doesn't happen over night.

I don't expect you to learn anything from this.

[Nolebull813]

1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said:

Something that losers like you will never understand is that life is mostly a process. It doesn't happen over night.

I don't expect you to learn anything from this.

It was the last game of year 7 that the process kicked in. That’s an outlier. You remind me of those people who record themselves taking trick shot after trick shot and when one FINALLY goes in they put their arms up like it was the first try. 

[HooverOutlaw]

How would Saban be thought of if he only beat Auburn, Tennessee and LSU twice each every 8 years.

[Atticus Finch]

4 hours ago, RedZone said:

Jim is now 2-5 vs Ohio St 

I made these same points when he was 0-5.

[Atticus Finch]

1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said:

It was the last game of year 7 that the process kicked in. That’s an outlier. 

So I just said that it doesn't happen over night and your comeback is to quip that it must've happened over night.

What a moron.

[Wosinc]

2 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

It was the last game of year 7 that the process kicked in. That’s an outlier. You remind me of those people who record themselves taking trick shot after trick shot and when one FINALLY goes in they put their arms up like it was the first try. 

Give it up.  ☝️ You’re getting hammered here 👇

1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said:

So I just said that it doesn't happen over night and your comeback is to quip that it must've happened over night.

What a moron.

And not just in this last post 😄