thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I remember stories of how MJ would try to punk everyone at practice except Cartwright. Cartwright let him know from the get go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I remember a season when the Bulls used 3 centers and combined they had pretty good numbers. Longly, Purdue and Wennington maybe? Could be wrong on one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said: I remember a season when the Bulls used 3 centers and combined they had pretty good numbers. Longly, Purdue and Wennington maybe? Could be wrong on one of them. who was the tall skinny brother they had for a while? Rail thin not King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said: I remember a season when the Bulls used 3 centers and combined they had pretty good numbers. Longly, Purdue and Wennington maybe? Could be wrong on one of them. You might be right it kinda sounds familiar. If so 3 scoops of vanilla manning the Center post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, thc6795 said: who was the tall skinny brother they had for a while? Rail thin not King. Not Grant he was decent sized? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Cossacks said: Not Grant he was decent sized? Man he had a hightop box fade. Damn I cant remember his name. Brad Sellers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Cossacks said: I remember as a kid watching Cartwright at USF. He was a very good college player and was good as a Knick, but by the time he was a Bull he was older and purely a complimentary piece. Longley, the big Aussie with the huge vertical lol? C'mon man! Maybe Cartwright is the connection between Elk Grove HS and Hoffman Estates ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 hours ago, rockinl said: The teams Jordan faced in the finals were garbage and he was a favorite every time( He faced 10 HOF total in the finals, compared to 27 for Bron) Jordan was 1-9 and swept 3 times in the first round(Prior to Pippen). Bron has never lost in the 1st round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, thc6795 said: Man he had a hightop box fade. Damn I cant remember his name. Brad Sellers? I think it might have been Sellers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 44 minutes ago, steeler01 said: The teams Jordan faced in the finals were garbage and he was a favorite every time( He faced 10 HOF total in the finals, compared to 27 for Bron) Jordan was 1-9 and swept 3 times in the first round(Prior to Pippen). Bron has never lost in the 1st round. who are the 27 James faced? How many did Jordan face just to reach the finals? Any of the HOF that James face did Jordan face in their prime while James caught them at the end of their careers? Because Jordan played with 13 other HOFers while on the Dream Team. Im sure he faced all of them at one point in his career, but facing a late 90's Bird compared to an 80's Bird is 2 different players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 51 minutes ago, steeler01 said: The teams Jordan faced in the finals were garbage and he was a favorite every time( He faced 10 HOF total in the finals, compared to 27 for Bron) Jordan was 1-9 and swept 3 times in the first round(Prior to Pippen). Bron has never lost in the 1st round. God seriously Steeler? Have you looked at this list they are calling hall of famers? The first 20 they are calling locks? Seriously? GTFOH. Ill give you 1,2,7?, 37,15,16. Butler, Jefferson,Horford Lewis Davis West OMG get out of here with this shit. Chauncey Billups Paul Pierce Kevin Garnett Ray Allen Caron Butler Vince Carter Jason Kidd Richard Jefferson Al Horford Joe Johnson Dwight Howard Rishard Lewis Andre Iguodala Jermaine O’Neal Shaquille O’Neal Carmelo Anthony Baron Davis David West Paul Milsap Pau Gasol Potential Hall of Famers: 21. Ben Wallace 22. Rasheed Wallace 23. Richard Hamilton 24. Tayshaun Prince 25. Rajon Rondo 26. Carlos Boozer 27. Antawn Jamison 28. Marcin Gortat 29. Derrick Rose 30. Jimmy Butler 31. Tyson Chandler 32. Amar’e Stoudemire 33. Paul George 34. Kemba Walker 35. Brook Lopez 36. Isaiah Thomas 37. Kyle Lowry 38. DeMar DeRozan 39. Serge Ibaka 40. John Wall (If Washington Wins) 41. Avery Bradley Notable Players: Andre Drummond, JJ Reddick, Jeff Teague< Dennis Schroder, Monta Ellis, Shaun Livingston, P.J Brown, Mike Bibby, Josh Smith, Rafer Alston, Carlos Boozer, Gilbert Arenas, Kyle Korver, Danny Granger, Leandro barbosa, George Hill, Myles Turner, Antonio McDyess… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 49 minutes ago, steeler01 said: The teams Jordan faced in the finals were garbage and he was a favorite every time( He faced 10 HOF total in the finals, compared to 27 for Bron) Jordan was 1-9 and swept 3 times in the first round(Prior to Pippen). Bron has never lost in the 1st round. But its it not what you do in the first rounds it all about what you do in the Big games. The goal is to get a ship' so it's what you do when you are in that situation that matters. It's what you do when you are on center stage that leaves a legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, thc6795 said: who are the 27 James faced? How many did Jordan face just to reach the finals? Any of the HOF that James face did Jordan face in their prime while James caught them at the end of their careers? Because Jordan played with 13 other HOFers while on the Dream Team. Im sure he faced all of them at one point in his career, but facing a late 90's Bird compared to an 80's Bird is 2 different players. Duncan 3x Parker 3x Kawhi 2x Ginoboli 3x Harden Durant 2x Westbrook Nowitzski Kidd Steph 3x Klay 3x Draymond 3x It's 26. Jordan faced a ton of teams with one or two hall of famers at most on teams to reach the finals. The best teams Jordan faced to reach the finals the Knicks had one HOF(The Magic had 1 and Penny should be a HOF with 2. The Bulls with 2 HOF lost to the Magic then picked up another HOF in Rodman in 96 and beat the Magic). James faced the Celtics with 3 HOF, the Magic, the Pistons, the Bulls, the Pacers(Similar to the Knicks of the 90's at the very least) Thomas Ewing Alonzo Mourning Shaq Reggie Miller Dumars Rodman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Cossacks said: But its it not what you do in the first rounds it all about what you do in the Big games. The goal is to get a ship' so it's what you do when you are in that situation that matters. It's what you do when you are on center stage that leaves a legacy. Bro take a look at that list they are calling hall of famers that James has faced. Shit I could be on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cossacks said: But its it not what you do in the first rounds it all about what you do in the Big games. The goal is to get a ship' so it's what you do when you are in that situation that matters. It's what you do when you are on center stage that leaves a legacy. Everything leaves a legacy to reasonable people, not fan boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, thc6795 said: God seriously Steeler? Have you looked at this list they are calling hall of famers? The first 20 they are calling locks? Seriously? GTFOH. Ill give you 1,2,7?, 37,15,16. Butler, Jefferson,Horford Lewis Davis West OMG get out of here with this shit. Chauncey Billups Paul Pierce Kevin Garnett Ray Allen Caron Butler Vince Carter Jason Kidd Richard Jefferson Al Horford Joe Johnson Dwight Howard Rishard Lewis Andre Iguodala Jermaine O’Neal Shaquille O’Neal Carmelo Anthony Baron Davis David West Paul Milsap Pau Gasol Potential Hall of Famers: 21. Ben Wallace 22. Rasheed Wallace 23. Richard Hamilton 24. Tayshaun Prince 25. Rajon Rondo 26. Carlos Boozer 27. Antawn Jamison 28. Marcin Gortat 29. Derrick Rose30. Jimmy Butler 31. Tyson Chandler 32. Amar’e Stoudemire33. Paul George 34. Kemba Walker 35. Brook Lopez 36. Isaiah Thomas 37. Kyle Lowry 38. DeMar DeRozan 39. Serge Ibaka 40. John Wall (If Washington Wins) 41. Avery Bradley Notable Players: Andre Drummond, JJ Reddick, Jeff Teague< Dennis Schroder, Monta Ellis, Shaun Livingston, P.J Brown, Mike Bibby, Josh Smith, Rafer Alston, Carlos Boozer, Gilbert Arenas, Kyle Korver, Danny Granger, Leandro barbosa, George Hill, Myles Turner, Antonio McDyess… The guys above are all HOF players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: The guys above are all HOF players. the top 20 are all being called hall of famers that James faced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Here you go Steeler, Keep in mind Im a Magic fan, No one will ever prove to me there was a better player. So we've heard the line that Jordan's Bulls played nine members of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in the NBA Finals while LeBron James has played against 26. Welp, those numbers aren't exactly the number of individual Hall of Famers played against, but rather the number of times those teams played others with Hall of Famers on them. It's a good sports bar discussion, but there's something else behind the numbers ... Looking at current Hall of Fame members Jordan's Bulls: 1991 (Bulls vs. Lakers): Magic Johnson, 2002; James Worthy, 2003 1992 (Bulls vs. Blazers): Clyde Drexler, 2004 1993 (Bulls vs. Suns): Charles Barkley, 2006 1996 (Bulls vs. SuperSonics): Gary Payton, 2013 1997 (Bulls vs. Jazz): John Stockton, 2009; Karl Malone, 2010 1998 (Bulls vs. Jazz II): Stockton and Malone So, the Bulls actually played against seven current Hall of Famers a total of nine times, and only played against a team coached by a current Hall of Famer once (Jerry Sloan in 1997 and 1998). Bulls also had two Hall of Fame coaches on the bench — Phil Jackson (2007) and Tex Winter (2011). LeBron James' teams: 2007: (Cavs vs. Spurs): none 2011: (Heat vs. Mavericks): none 2012: (Heat vs. Thunder): none 2013: (Heat vs. Spurs): Tracy McGrady, 2017 2014: (Heat vs. Spurs II): none 2015: (Cavs vs. Warriors): none 2016: (Cavs vs. Warriors II): none 2017: (Cavs. vs. Warriors III): none LeBron's teams have only played a team with one Hall of Famer, and that's new inductee Tracy McGrady in 2013. For LeBron's argument, he has the potential to say he has played against these potential future Hall of Famers: Spurs: Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker and Gregg Popovich as coach. Mavericks: Dirk Nowitski, Jason Kidd (possibly Tyson Chandler, Jason Terry and Peja Stojakovic) Thunder: Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden Warriors: Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kevin Durant (possibly David West) That's a solid 11 future Hall of Famers with, as I count, four possibles. But, including McGrady, and all the seemingly definite future inductees are there, that would mean LeBron would have played potentially against at least 12 different Hall of Famers a total of 26 times (counting this year's finals). Also, LeBron would've played against one coach that's a sure-fire Hall of Famer, and that's Popovich (2007, 2013 and 2014). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, thc6795 said: the top 20 are all being called hall of famers that James faced. By who? Richard Jefferson has never even been a HOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Here you go Steeler, Keep in mind Im a Magic fan, No one will ever prove to me there was a better player. So we've heard the line that Jordan's Bulls played nine members of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in the NBA Finals while LeBron James has played against 26. Welp, those numbers aren't exactly the number of individual Hall of Famers played against, but rather the number of times those teams played others with Hall of Famers on them. It's a good sports bar discussion, but there's something else behind the numbers ... Looking at current Hall of Fame members Jordan's Bulls: 1991 (Bulls vs. Lakers): Magic Johnson, 2002; James Worthy, 2003 1992 (Bulls vs. Blazers): Clyde Drexler, 2004 1993 (Bulls vs. Suns): Charles Barkley, 2006 1996 (Bulls vs. SuperSonics): Gary Payton, 2013 1997 (Bulls vs. Jazz): John Stockton, 2009; Karl Malone, 2010 1998 (Bulls vs. Jazz II): Stockton and Malone So, the Bulls actually played against seven current Hall of Famers a total of nine times, and only played against a team coached by a current Hall of Famer once (Jerry Sloan in 1997 and 1998). Bulls also had two Hall of Fame coaches on the bench — Phil Jackson (2007) and Tex Winter (2011). LeBron James' teams: 2007: (Cavs vs. Spurs): none 2011: (Heat vs. Mavericks): none 2012: (Heat vs. Thunder): none 2013: (Heat vs. Spurs): Tracy McGrady, 2017 2014: (Heat vs. Spurs II): none 2015: (Cavs vs. Warriors): none 2016: (Cavs vs. Warriors II): none 2017: (Cavs. vs. Warriors III): none LeBron's teams have only played a team with one Hall of Famer, and that's new inductee Tracy McGrady in 2013. For LeBron's argument, he has the potential to say he has played against these potential future Hall of Famers: Spurs: Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker and Gregg Popovich as coach. Mavericks: Dirk Nowitski, Jason Kidd (possibly Tyson Chandler, Jason Terry and Peja Stojakovic) Thunder: Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden Warriors: Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kevin Durant (possibly David West) That's a solid 11 future Hall of Famers with, as I count, four possibles. Also, LeBron would've played against one coach that's a sure-fire Hall of Famer, and that's Popovich (2007, 2013 and 2014). The above guys are sure fire HOF players. Which is why I added them. Who cares if they currently aren't in the HOF? Kawhi Leonard will be a HOF You forgot Kevin Johnson for the Suns in 1993 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: By who? Richard Jefferson has never even been a HOF. when you look up Lames has played more hall of famers this list comes up. Dude they have Germaine Onielon the dang thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: The above guys are sure fire HOF players. Which is why I added them. Who cares if they currently aren't in the HOF? Kawhi Leonard will be a HOF You forgot Kevin Johnson for the Suns in 1993 Barkley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, thc6795 said: when you look up Lames has played more hall of famers this list comes up. Dude they have Germaine Onielon the dang thing Let's be realistic with the list. That list sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, thc6795 said: Barkley? You didn't add Kevin Johnson on that team. That's why Jordan faced 10 HOF in the finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Let's be realistic with the list. That list sucks I agree I didn't make the list I copied from the article. The writer said that list was the 27 hall of famers James will have faced. This was not my list bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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