ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Guns make sure i have the ability to do the things in the 1st amendment Again for the 4th time go research and read about the 2nd amendment Thank god farmers and such had guns we wouldn't be America without them The hypocrisy is real. You want less violence in society, yet you won't ban the single item that causes all this violence. Make up your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, ngdawg said: Doesn't warrant your death though. Sure, go to jail! But death is not warranted. Just because cops have to arrest people doesn't mean they can't show some human decency. Stop acting like he was executed. Show at least a modicum of intellectual honesty, lad. He was a fucking moron with health issues who put HIMSELF in a precarious situation. Left-wing America is a personal responsibility free zone. Appalling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, ngdawg said: The hypocrisy is real. You want less violence in society, yet you won't ban the single item that causes all this violence. Make up your mind. If everyone was armed you'd have less violence. You don't hear about too much violence in Texas why? They are all carrying That one guy tried to create a problem. Hes now dead. Problem solved When you have people who are vulnerable because they do not carry guns you have a higher risk of violence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, ngdawg said: Guns are literally used only for violence amongst civilians. Absolutely useless. Your brainwashing was highly effective. They are never used for sport (hunting, target shooting?) Never used for self-defense? Oh, and guess what is #1 on the list of things to do the populace when a new dictatorship or authoritarian power takes over. Answer: You disarm the population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, concha said: Stop acting like he was executed. Show at least a modicum of intellectual honesty, lad. He was a fucking moron with health issues who put HIMSELF in a precarious situation. Left-wing America is a personal responsibility free zone. Appalling. Yes, that's exactly why they feel it's their responsibility to fight for equality among races. Definitely no personal responsibility there...just looking out for the entire human race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: If everyone was armed you'd have less violence. You don't hear about too much violence in Texas why? They are all carrying That one guy tried to create a problem. Hes now dead. Problem solved When you have people who are vulnerable because they do not carry guns you have a higher risk of violence Does anyone else hear this logic? You arm more people (which is the cause for violence) to prevent violence. And Texas has it's fair share of violence. We going to conveniently forget that 49 other states comprise our country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, concha said: Your brainwashing was highly effective. They are never used for sport (hunting, target shooting?) Never used for self-defense? Oh, and guess what is #1 on the list of things to do the populace when a new dictatorship or authoritarian power takes over. Answer: You disarm the population. Self-defense, really? Do you REALLY think that guns are used more for self-defense than hurting others? Do you live in Wonderland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, ngdawg said: Yes, that's exactly why they feel it's their responsibility to fight for equality among races. Definitely no personal responsibility there...just looking out for the entire human race! You are just not very bright. His skin color has nothing to do with anything. He was a fucking idiot with serious health issues who made very poor and very dangerous choices. Your take on this is absurd. HE MADE CHOICES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, ngdawg said: Does anyone else hear this logic? You arm more people (which is the cause for violence) to prevent violence. And Texas has it's fair share of violence. We going to conveniently forget that 49 other states comprise our country? And the ones with guns are safer than the ones with strict guns laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, concha said: You are just not very bright. His skin color has nothing to do with anything. He was a fucking idiot with serious health issues who made very poor and very dangerous choices. Your take on this is absurd. HE MADE CHOICES But when it comes to white people, none of this "I can't breathe" stuff happens. They just arrest the guy and put him in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, HSFBfan said: And the ones with guns are safer than the ones with strict guns laws. Let's see...guns are used for hunting and self-defense. Yet most killings we hear about involve guns. We're willing to sacrifice lives to protect ourselves from shooting an animal to eat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, ngdawg said: Self-defense, really? Do you REALLY think that guns are used more for self-defense than hurting others? Do you live in Wonderland? There are studies out there that indicate they are used hundreds of thousands of times a year for personal defense, lad. In fact, the numbers have been estimated at over two million per year in at a least one. And, no, I'm NOT going to do any work for you posting links. Educate yourself. Like I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, ngdawg said: Let's see...guns are used for hunting and self-defense. Yet most killings we hear about involve guns. We're willing to sacrifice lives to protect ourselves from shooting an animal to eat? Dude enough U r clueless on the subject Have a good day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, concha said: There are studies out here that indicate they are used hundreds of thousands of times a year for personal defense, lad. In fact, the numbers have been estimated at over two million per year in at a least one. And, no, I'm NOT going to do any work for you posting links. Educate yourself. Like I did. 300,000 violent cases involving guns in 2008. Last year, 38,000 died from gun violence. You're willing to sacrifice that many lives per year just to flaunt a weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Dude enough U r clueless on the subject Have a good day You too! Talk to concha about bringing up shooting animals. Facts also exist online, and it's worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, ngdawg said: You too! Talk to concha about bringing up shooting animals. Facts also exist online, and it's worth a look. There are millions of responsible hunters in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, ngdawg said: But when it comes to white people, none of this "I can't breathe" stuff happens. They just arrest the guy and put him in jail. Or, alternatively, it is guaranteed to be made a national event every time it happens to a black guy. Look at the guy we are discussing. He was a fucking idiot and made incredibly stupid choices, but you, like the dutiful little Young Pioneer that you are, choose to reflexively throw all culpability on the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, ngdawg said: 300,000 violent cases involving guns in 2008. Last year, 38,000 died from gun violence. You're willing to sacrifice that many lives per year just to flaunt a weapon? "Flaunting a weapon" is what this jackass did. You think we can make guns disappear? How's it working with outlawing drugs? Who has the guns if the law-abiding give up theirs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, HSFBfan said: There are millions of responsible hunters in this country I wouldn't mind if these guns were just rented for shooting and returned to the "owner" after you're done shooting. But personal weapons are simply a hazard. Have a good day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, concha said: "Flaunting a weapon" is what this jackass did. You think we can make guns disappear? How's it working with outlawing drugs? Who has the guns if the law-abiding give up theirs? We can't really trust anyone to be responsible with their weapons. One night of drinking can change a lot from what I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, concha said: Or, alternatively, it is guaranteed to be made a national event every time it happens to a black guy. Look at the guy we are discussing. He was a fucking idiot and made incredibly stupid choices, but you, like the dutiful little Young Pioneer that you are, choose to reflexively throw all culpability on the police. And you take the other approach: throw all culpability on the person. What the cop did was wrong, but I never said the person was 100% free from blame either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, ngdawg said: I wouldn't mind if these guns were just rented for shooting and returned to the "owner" after you're done shooting. But personal weapons are simply a hazard. Have a good day! Than you simply don't understand why we have the 2nd amendment the importance of it or anything of the historical concept of it Schools have def failed millions of kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, HSFBfan said: Than you simply don't understand why we have the 2nd amendment the importance of it or anything of the historical concept of it Schools have def failed millions of kids It's definitely less important than the First Amendment when looking objectively. Guns are just a way for people to express their frustration. It's used more for that reason than true self-defense. You can still have gun ranges where guns can be rented and used only in the facility, but not to keep with you on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, ngdawg said: It's definitely less important than the First Amendment when looking objectively. Guns are just a way for people to express their frustration. It's used more for that reason than true self-defense. You can still have gun ranges where guns can be rented and used only in the facility, but not to keep with you on your own. Again just stop talking and go learn U need a history lesson asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, ngdawg said: And you take the other approach: throw all culpability on the person. What the cop did was wrong, but I never said the person was 100% free from blame either. The cop arrested and restrained a dangerous man who was high on drugs, had been waving a gun around and who tried to flee arrest. The weight of responsibility for this situation is overwhelmingly on the side of the idiot who died. Done arguing with naive, ignorant and stupid takes on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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