ChimpGrip Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Who wins and why? I go with Clemson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Deshaun Watson would not lose to fraud UCF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, HurricaneNick said: Deshaun Watson would not lose to fraud UCF. How they fraud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Clemson holds a 2-vote lead currently. I don't think they'll advance farther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 UCF would have been a 4 loss team in the SEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: UCF would have been a 4 loss team in the SEC. Which 4 teams in 2017 beat them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Which 4 teams in 2017 beat them? Alabama Georgia LSU Auburn If they played any of those 4 in the regular they beat UCF. I know they beat an unmotivated and could less Auburn team in the Bowl game. UCF playing an SEC schedule would get beat down and probably on top those 4 teams they probably get a loss from a Miss State or South Carolina. UCF did not have regular season win over a AP top 20 team in the final rankings. The next year they go 12-0 and LSU beat them pretty easy. LSU was about the 4th or 5th best team in the SEC that year. They play in a B level conference and rarely play a top 10 team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, HooverOutlaw said: Alabama Georgia LSU Auburn If they played any of those 4 in the regular they beat UCF. I know they beat an unmotivated and could less Auburn team in the Bowl game. UCF playing an SEC schedule would get beat down and probably on top those 4 teams they probably get a loss from a Miss State or South Carolina. UCF did not have regular season win over a AP top 20 team in the final rankings. The next year they go 12-0 and LSU beat them pretty easy. LSU was about the 4th or 5th best team in the SEC that year. They play in a B level conference and rarely play a top 10 team. Correct me if I'm wrong but they played the LSU game without their starting QB who was injured in the last game of regular season or conference championship? And I don't give a damn if Auburn was unmotivated, that's their own fault so no they had their chance to beat UCF and lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimpGrip Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Columbiafan said: Correct me if I'm wrong but they played the LSU game without their starting QB who was injured in the last game of regular season or conference championship? And I don't give a damn if Auburn was unmotivated, that's their own fault so no they had their chance to beat UCF and lost LSU was missing a ton of starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: Alabama Georgia LSU Auburn If they played any of those 4 in the regular they beat UCF. I know they beat an unmotivated and could less Auburn team in the Bowl game. UCF playing an SEC schedule would get beat down and probably on top those 4 teams they probably get a loss from a Miss State or South Carolina. UCF did not have regular season win over a AP top 20 team in the final rankings. The next year they go 12-0 and LSU beat them pretty easy. LSU was about the 4th or 5th best team in the SEC that year. They play in a B level conference and rarely play a top 10 team. Dan Mullen had already left to coach at UF by then correct? If so then no way Mississippi State without Mullen beats UCF and South Carolina hasn't had any consistency since the old ball coached hanged up the visor to go golfing in Gainesville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, ChimpGrip said: LSU was missing a ton of starters By choice if I recall correctly, players sitting out because they didn't care isn't the same as a player being injured One is by choice, one isn't I file that same under the Auburn not caring the year before, if players sit out and the game is closer it's on the coaches for not properly motivating their team in my eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Columbiafan said: Correct me if I'm wrong but they played the LSU game without their starting QB who was injured in the last game of regular season or conference championship? And I don't give a damn if Auburn was unmotivated, that's their own fault so no they had their chance to beat UCF and lost If we are gonna bring up injuries Auburn had Kerryon Johnson who was not 100% for the game. In that bowl game LSU had 555 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, HooverOutlaw said: If we are gonna bring up injuries Auburn had Kerryon Johnson who was not 100% for the game. In that bowl game LSU had 555 yards. I've heard conflicting stories Some said he was injured, others said he was coasting So let's say he was Injured, what about the rest of the team, he didn't beat Alabama all on his own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Dan Mullen had already left to coach at UF by then correct? If so then no way Mississippi State without Mullen beats UCF and South Carolina hasn't had any consistency since the old ball coached hanged up the visor to go golfing in Gainesville I'm talking regular season games only. UCF played a 2nd tier bowl game Alabama had to beat Clemson then beat Georgia in Georgia. UCF is like a 2A champ who goes 15-0 wanting to play a 7A school when a 5-5 7A beats them easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Columbiafan said: I've heard conflicting stories Some said he was injured, others said he was coasting So let's say he was Injured, what about the rest of the team, he didn't beat Alabama all on his own Another good point Auburn was good enough to beat anybody that's the SEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, HooverOutlaw said: I'm talking regular season games only. UCF played a 2nd tier bowl game Alabama had to beat Clemson then beat Georgia in Georgia. UCF is like a 2A champ who goes 15-0 wanting to play a 7A school when a 5-5 7A beats them easy. Any non Playoff bowl is considered 2nd tier now So only 2 games of all the initial bowl games are tier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: By choice if I recall correctly, players sitting out because they didn't care isn't the same as a player being injured One is by choice, one isn't I file that same under the Auburn not caring the year before, if players sit out and the game is closer it's on the coaches for not properly motivating their team in my eyes UCF playing Auburn is a big deal to UCF. Most Auburn players had never even heard of UCF till the bowl game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, HooverOutlaw said: UCF playing Auburn is a big deal to UCF. Most Auburn players had never even heard of UCF till the bowl game. Then that's Auburn fault for not doing a better job preparing for it, people can claim they didn't care but all that tells me is Auburn is poorly motivated and poorly coached No well coached team would ever be willing to go into a game and not want to win it IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, Columbiafan said: Any non Playoff bowl is considered 2nd tier now So only 2 games of all the initial bowl games are tier 1 Yes. If you are not in playoffs you drop a tier. Before 2016 Peach Bowl had never had a top 5 match up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, Columbiafan said: Then that's Auburn fault for not doing a better job preparing for it, people can claim they didn't care but all that tells me is Auburn is poorly motivated and poorly coached No well coached team would ever be willing to go into a game and not want to win it IMO You damn right they are poorly coached I agree. Auburn is a roller coaster. You should not win the national title if your best win is over a 4 loss Auburn team in a bowl game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, HooverOutlaw said: You damn right they are poorly coached I agree. Auburn is a roller coaster. You should not win the national title if your best win is over a 4 loss Auburn team in a bowl game. Again I'm not trying to make the argument for UCF being national champs Only that they deserve the credit for beating Auburn, it's not UCF fault or problem that Auburn phoned it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Ucf not winning that matchup. People get confused thinking beating an SEC team in 1 game means you can handle the SEC. You have to battle through the SEC teams like Ucf and Clemson would not last through a full season on a year in year out basis. Clemson almost last to NC and will probably have their hands full again this year with them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ga96 said: Ucf not winning that matchup. People get confused thinking beating an SEC team in 1 game means you can handle the SEC. You have to battle through the SEC teams like Ucf and Clemson would not last through a full season on a year in year out basis. Clemson almost last to NC and will probably have their hands full again this year with them. And this shows how little you know about football you incompetent quack Clemson is built on paper to rival Alabama, they would blast most SEC teams with ease and if you think otherwise then I see why you don't belong here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 @georgiagator1 man get this friend of yours out of this discussion, he gone crazy if he thinks Clemson couldn't hang in the SEC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimpGrip Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Columbiafan said: By choice if I recall correctly, players sitting out because they didn't care isn't the same as a player being injured One is by choice, one isn't I file that same under the Auburn not caring the year before, if players sit out and the game is closer it's on the coaches for not properly motivating their team in my eyes Players on defense were dropping like flies throughout the game... totaled to something like 10 total starters. More by injury than choice by the end of the game. One of the OL had go out there and play DL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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