954gator Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Once again we have the 2007 national rankings for all to review and discuss! Please share Video/articles/forgotten backstories of top teams and or top players on said teams. What are your thoughts on the rankings? Who was underrated or overrated in your opinion? What team you think would win if they had a playoff? Human polls vs Computers...which is more accurate? USA today 2007 1. Miami Northwestern, Miami (15-0) 2. Prattville, Ala. (15-0) 3. De La Salle, Concord, Calif. (13-0) 4. Katy, Texas (16-0) 5. St. Xavier, Cincinnati (15-0) 6. Pahokee, Fla. (14-0) 7. Northside, Warner Robins, Ga. (15-0) 8. Booker T.Washington, Miami (14-0) 9. South Panola, Batesville, Miss. (15-0) 10. Maryville, Tenn. (15-0) 11. Central Catholic, Pittsburgh (16-0) 12. Don Bosco Prep, Ramsey, N.J. (12-0) 13. Byrnes, Duncan, S.C. (15-0) 14. Colerain, Cincinnati (12-1) 15. Birmingham, Lake Balboa, Calif. (13-1) 16. Eden Prairie, Minn. (14-0) 17. Hutchinson, Kan. (13-0) 18. Jenks, Tulsa (13-1) 19. Catholic Academy, Joliet, Ill. (13-1) 20. Poly, Long Beach (13-1) 21. Skyline, Sammamish, Wash. (14-0) 22. Westfield, Chantilly, Va. (15-0) 23. Trinity, Louisville (13-2) 24. Centennial, Corona, Calif. (13-2) 25. Jeannette, Pa. (16-0) Prepnation 2007: https://tennprepdb.com/rankings.aspx. Some reason this link is giving me some external component error (WTF?!). worked then went to switch to 2007 and won't work now. Think I broke it lol. 1. St. Xavier, Cincinnati. Maxpreps/Calpreps 1 St. Xavier (Cincinnati) OH 15-0 73.8 50.5 -- 2 De La Salle (Concord) CA 13-0 66.3 34.6 -- 3 Trinity (Euless) TX 15-1 66.0 41.5 -- 4 Central Catholic (Pittsburgh) PA 16-0 65.3 37.1 -- 5 Eden Prairie MN 14-0 65.1 28.9 -- 6 Prattville AL 15-0 63.1 32.3 -- 7 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey) NJ 12-0 63.0 28.4 -- 8 Katy TX 16-0 62.3 29.4 -- 9 Long Beach Poly (Long Beach) CA 13-1 62.2 38.4 -- 10 Hutchinson KS 13-0 60.7 30.5 -- 11 Montgomery Bell Academy (Nashville) TN 13-0 60.4 35.7 -- 12 Arrowhead (Hartland) WI 14-0 60.4 25.1 -- 13 Centennial (Corona) CA 13-2 60.3 36.9 -- 14 Rockhurst (Kansas City) MO 13-0 60.0 33.8 -- 15 Dublin Coffman (Dublin) OH 13-1 59.7 37.0 -- 16 Colerain (Cincinnati) OH 12-1 59.7 35.9 -- 17 Meridian ID 12-0 59.4 31.6 -- 18 Skyline (Sammamish) WA 14-0 59.2 28.6 -- 19 Jenks OK 13-1 59.0 31.0 -- 20 Cardinal Mooney (Youngstown) OH 14-1 58.9 38.7 -- 21 Marion Local (Maria Stein) OH 15-0 58.7 24.6 -- 22 Destrehan LA 15-0 58.5 32.5 -- 23 Joliet Catholic (Joliet) IL 13-1 58.5 28.0 -- 24 Bowie (Arlington) TX 12-2 58.4 37.9 -- 25 Booker T. Washington (Miami) FL 14-0 58.4 24.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Florida 5A state champs STA (14-1) ranked 111 by calpreps. Interesting daisy chain for STA. STA's sole loss was @ Deerfield Beach 43-41. MNW met DFB in the playoffs and performed a miracle comeback to win it 19-14. "Deerfield Beach was driving to put the game away and faced a fourth-and-goal from the 2. Quarterback Denard Robinson was stopped just short of the end zone, giving Northwestern life. Northwestern quarterback Jacory Harris then showed why the University of Miami is so excited about his arrival next season. He led Northwestern 99 yards in the final 2:18 for the go-ahead touchdown. Running back Tyresse Jones capped the drive on a 5-yard scoring run with 18 second left, sending the Northwestern crowd into a frenzy. Deerfield Beach players on the sideline burst into tears." https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-2007-12-08-0712080024-story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 By far the biggest OOS game that year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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954gator Posted August 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Another great rivalry in Kentucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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954gator Posted August 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Undefeated BTW went up to South Carolina and shut down AJ Green and Summerville to a tune of 36-3. They also beat Dwyer, Armwood, and Nease on their way to a FL 4A state title. It's too bad BTW and MNW didn't play that year. Also would have been cool to see Pahokee line up with either of those two. Can't find much video on 2007 BTW unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 Ohio teams made the second ranking. That doesn't seem too right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, ngdawg said: 5 Ohio teams made the second ranking. That doesn't seem too right. X was elite Colerain was very good. Lost their QB before first playoff game....with the QB, their ranking is probably fair.....without him they should probably be toward the back end of the top 25.. Dublin Coffman was legit too. Played X very tough and I think kept it within 1 score. Mooney was very good for their size. Never really know how good they were as a lower division champ. I dont think they should be anywhere near a top 25. Probably not a top 50 either. Same for Marion Local. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, ngdawg said: 5 Ohio teams made the second ranking. That doesn't seem too right. Maxpreps having teams from Minnesota, Kansas, Wisconsin, and Idaho in their top 20 seems 1) comical; and 2) like something that will never happen again, even if those teams were to win every game 84-0. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 hours ago, 954gator said: By far the biggest OOS game that year Needed that result to happen. SLC was gettin' too big for thier britches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hardhit1 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Coletrain06 said: X was elite Colerain was very good. Lost their QB before first playoff game....with the QB, their ranking is probably fair.....without him they should probably be toward the back end of the top 25.. Dublin Coffman was legit too. Played X very tough and I think kept it within 1 score. Mooney was very good for their size. Never really know how good they were as a lower division champ. I dont think they should be anywhere near a top 25. Probably not a top 50 either. Same for Marion Local. Yet Mooney was the best Ohio team in 2009 They did what Florida small teams do and that’s ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 4 hours ago, 954gator said: Once again we have the 2007 national rankings for all to review and discuss! Please share Video/articles/forgotten backstories of top teams and or top players on said teams. What are your thoughts on the rankings? Who was underrated or overrated in your opinion? What team you think would win if they had a playoff? Human polls vs Computers...which is more accurate? USA today 2007 1. Miami Northwestern, Miami (15-0) 2. Prattville, Ala. (15-0) 3. De La Salle, Concord, Calif. (13-0) 4. Katy, Texas (16-0) 5. St. Xavier, Cincinnati (15-0) 6. Pahokee, Fla. (14-0) 7. Northside, Warner Robins, Ga. (15-0) 8. Booker T.Washington, Miami (14-0) 9. South Panola, Batesville, Miss. (15-0) 10. Maryville, Tenn. (15-0) 11. Central Catholic, Pittsburgh (16-0) 12. Don Bosco Prep, Ramsey, N.J. (12-0) 13. Byrnes, Duncan, S.C. (15-0) 14. Colerain, Cincinnati (12-1) 15. Birmingham, Lake Balboa, Calif. (13-1) 16. Eden Prairie, Minn. (14-0) 17. Hutchinson, Kan. (13-0) 18. Jenks, Tulsa (13-1) 19. Catholic Academy, Joliet, Ill. (13-1) 20. Poly, Long Beach (13-1) 21. Skyline, Sammamish, Wash. (14-0) 22. Westfield, Chantilly, Va. (15-0) 23. Trinity, Louisville (13-2) 24. Centennial, Corona, Calif. (13-2) 25. Jeannette, Pa. (16-0) Prepnation 2007: https://tennprepdb.com/rankings.aspx. Some reason this link is giving me some external component error (WTF?!). worked then went to switch to 2007 and won't work now. Think I broke it lol. 1. St. Xavier, Cincinnati. Maxpreps/Calpreps 1 St. Xavier (Cincinnati) OH 15-0 73.8 50.5 -- 2 De La Salle (Concord) CA 13-0 66.3 34.6 -- 3 Trinity (Euless) TX 15-1 66.0 41.5 -- 4 Central Catholic (Pittsburgh) PA 16-0 65.3 37.1 -- 5 Eden Prairie MN 14-0 65.1 28.9 -- 6 Prattville AL 15-0 63.1 32.3 -- 7 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey) NJ 12-0 63.0 28.4 -- 8 Katy TX 16-0 62.3 29.4 -- 9 Long Beach Poly (Long Beach) CA 13-1 62.2 38.4 -- 10 Hutchinson KS 13-0 60.7 30.5 -- 11 Montgomery Bell Academy (Nashville) TN 13-0 60.4 35.7 -- 12 Arrowhead (Hartland) WI 14-0 60.4 25.1 -- 13 Centennial (Corona) CA 13-2 60.3 36.9 -- 14 Rockhurst (Kansas City) MO 13-0 60.0 33.8 -- 15 Dublin Coffman (Dublin) OH 13-1 59.7 37.0 -- 16 Colerain (Cincinnati) OH 12-1 59.7 35.9 -- 17 Meridian ID 12-0 59.4 31.6 -- 18 Skyline (Sammamish) WA 14-0 59.2 28.6 -- 19 Jenks OK 13-1 59.0 31.0 -- 20 Cardinal Mooney (Youngstown) OH 14-1 58.9 38.7 -- 21 Marion Local (Maria Stein) OH 15-0 58.7 24.6 -- 22 Destrehan LA 15-0 58.5 32.5 -- 23 Joliet Catholic (Joliet) IL 13-1 58.5 28.0 -- 24 Bowie (Arlington) TX 12-2 58.4 37.9 -- 25 Booker T. Washington (Miami) FL 14-0 58.4 24.1 I'm surprised Lowndes was in none of these... I thought The 2007 Lowndes team was pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, hardhit1 said: Yet Mooney was the best Ohio team in 2009 They did what Florida small teams do and that’s ball Did Mooney go out of their way to play tough OOS games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, 954gator said: Did Mooney go out of their way to play tough OOS games? As per the rankings above, they had the third hardest schedule of any top 25 team. So...maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 4 hours ago, hardhit1 said: Yet Mooney was the best Ohio team in 2009 They did what Florida small teams do and that’s ball Yea 2009 was the only year Id entertain the idea of them being the best, and thats also because of how down D1 was in 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Adding to my skepticism at Maxpreps' rankings for this year are how they ranked Arizona: 1. Saguaro - 14-0 4A-1 champions. One Saguaro team I can understand being ranked this high, this still a team playing third-division ball that had wins of 10, 6, 3, and 2 points. 2. Show Low - 12-1 3A champs with wins of 10, 8 (to a 5A Junior squad), and 7 (×2) points. Not much remarkable about this team in comparison to thousands of larger schools in the country. 3. Brophy - 12-2 5A-1 champs, have to think they'd have found a spot in USA Today's rankings had they not tripped against a mediocre Basha squad. 4. Hamilton - 12-1 5A-1 semifinalist, spent the first 12 weeks of the year as the state's alpha dog before falling to Brophy in a torrential downpour in the semifinals (they beat Brophy by 23 in the regular season). 5. Blue Ridge - 11-1 3A semifinalist. Beat rival Show Low during regular season before losing a playoff rematch. Unlike Show Low this was a dominant small school team yet hard to imagine the Ls they'd take once they started playing larger schools wouldn't have been a thing this year. 6. Centennial - 13-1 5A-2 champs, with the lone loss coming to Hamilton and wins of 6 and 7 points to the 5A-2 runner-up and the 5A-1 runner-up. 7. Chaparral - 10-3 4A-1 semifinalist, responsible for two of Saguaro's close wins. Third loss was by four points. 8. Canyon del Oro - 12-2 4A-1 runner-up, had a late lead in the title game. Only other loss was a two-point loss on a long road trip. 9. Desert Vista - 9-5 5A-1 runner-up, started the year 2-3 before finally playing to their talent level (several eventual D1 guys were on this team, mostly in the junior class) and making a run. Aforementioned torrential downpour on semifinal Friday didn't hurt either (won a matchup where the two teams had as many interceptions as they did completions and neither cracked 200 yards of total offense). 10. Red Mountain - 10-3 5A-1 semifinalist, were shutout in their first two losses (23-0 and 24-0) before falling to Desert Vista in that ugly semifinal Mud Bowl. Beyond that top ten they had two other 3A teams, both 4A-2 finalists (with schedule strengths of 4.2 and 7.2), and a 4A-1 first round casualty ahead of the 5A-2 runner-up. TL, DR Maxpreps seemed so confident in Hamilton's ability to smackdown the rest of 5A-1 and that no one would care about the rest of the field as long as they got that spot correct. Nature intervened though via Attack of the Mud Bowls and our end result was four public schools with enrollments of under 800 being ranked in the state's final top 20. That said they were probably right nobody caring in the end; it's not like there's some 38-year old knob bitching about this on some Sunday morning nearly 15 years after the fact... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Jamie DeMoney was total crap that season. He used to post on the Texas National board and I ripped him hard for this dropping of Northwestern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 16 hours ago, The Guru said: National Prep Poll Back when you had to be undefeated to be a national champ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Damn im waiting to see columbia on one of these list since catgirl claims they are just miles above and beyond Lowndes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, The Guru said: Jamie DeMoney was total crap that season. He used to post on the Texas National board and I ripped him hard for this dropping of Northwestern. X was very good that season, but I too thought MNW was the best team I saw in 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 21 hours ago, ngdawg said: 5 Ohio teams made the second ranking. That doesn't seem too right. It was 2007. Ohio was a top 3 state. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Coletrain06 said: X was very good that season, but I too thought MNW was the best team I saw in 2007 X/Northwestern would have been an excellent game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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