Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, georgiagator1 said: @FootballGuy @Columbiafan "Stricklin’s response is pending, but it will be interesting to see if White continues this stance with other programs similar to Florida, or if another Power 5 school finally gives the Knights a chance with a scheduling commitment." Has anyone yet? No. Didn't North Carolina give them a home and home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Not if they have to split the gate with UF at a neutral site and then pay a rental fee In a home gate the home team can keep everything, in a neutral site the gate is split The UCF AD himself ask for a neutral site game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, georgiagator1 said: Because in general they are not that good. You cant reward those schedules. Didn't they say the same thing about Boise State who kept on knocking off power 5 teams in BSC bowl games? Boise State probably better than half the teams in the PAC 12 most years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Didn't North Carolina give them a home and home? No. 2 for 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 44 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Didn't they say the same thing about Boise State who kept on knocking off power 5 teams in BSC bowl games? Boise State probably better than half the teams in the PAC 12 most years They have a lot better argument than UCF, by a mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, georgiagator1 said: The UCF AD himself ask for a neutral site game. Then he is a idiot I would have taken 2 for 1 deal, as long as my home game is actually a home game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, georgiagator1 said: They have a lot better argument than UCF, by a mile. But they were given the same chance as UCF even when they started knocking off major programs consistently when the chances arise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, georgiagator1 said: Its the same deal USF took. That YOU just brought up. They want a true home and home and it will never happen. Wait... something that will be very telling is if USF was offered a home game in this deal but not UCF. So, was UCF offered a home game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: UF ain't gonna get many seats anyway, what do road teams generally get? 5k seats? 10k? @georgiagator1 This is why I don't buy the low seat argument Road teams only get a small percentage of the seats offered in the first place so it's irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 49 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Didn't North Carolina give them a home and home? My mistake, its 2 for 2. But, UNC is hardly a high profile program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, FootballGuy said: Wait... something that will be very telling is if USF was offered a home game in this deal but not UCF. So, was UCF offered a home game? I'm honestly a bit confused atm My understanding was USF was getting a game at Raymond James stadium (USF uses it as a home stadium) but UCF "home game" was supposed to be at camping world If that's not the case then I clearly missed something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: @georgiagator1 This is why I don't buy the low seat argument Road teams only get a small percentage of the seats offered in the first place so it's irrelevant The % of 45,000 is a heck of a lot lower than % of 75,000+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, georgiagator1 said: My mistake, its 2 for 2. But, UNC is hardly a high profile program They are still a recognized P5 program and while they aren't as successful as Florida it is definitely a step in the right direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, georgiagator1 said: My mistake, its 2 for 2. But, UNC is hardly a high profile program They are still a recognized P5 program and while they aren't as successful as Florida it is definitely a step in the right direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, georgiagator1 said: The UCF AD himself ask for a neutral site game. Now I thought the UCF AD's counter proposal was a home and home + a neutral site game instead of that 2 for 1 bullshit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, georgiagator1 said: The % of 45,000 is a heck of a lot lower than % of 75,000+ How many fans does a road team normally get in a 75k seat stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 47 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: I'm honestly a bit confused atm My understanding was USF was getting a game at Raymond James stadium (USF uses it as a home stadium) but UCF "home game" was supposed to be at camping world If that's not the case then I clearly missed something https://www.blackandgoldbanneret.com/2018/12/18/18147207/ucf-knights-should-take-florida-gators-football-scheduling-offer-which-doesnt-exist It was a HOME game for UCF. Just like USF deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: They are still a recognized P5 program and while they aren't as successful as Florida it is definitely a step in the right direction For UNC. Not UF, or Bama, or PennSt, or Texas, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Now I thought the UCF AD's counter proposal was a home and home + a neutral site game instead of that 2 for 1 bullshit? It was. Which puts the programs on equal footing. They are not. UF doesnt need them. They should take the 2-1 deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 48 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: How many fans does a road team normally get in a 75k seat stadium? Different for different teams. But more than you will get for 45,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, georgiagator1 said: It was. Which puts the programs on equal footing. They are not. UF doesnt need them. They should take the 2-1 deal. In the very article you just sent me it said the 2 for 1 was never really offered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, georgiagator1 said: Different for different teams. But more than you will get for 45,000. But just for the sake of my argument what would you estimate a road team normally gets in the 75k seat stadiums normally I just want to see if what I'm thinking could be reasonable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: In the very article you just sent me it said the 2 for 1 was never really offered https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/florida-football/obtained-emails-show-florida-ucf-did-discuss-series-ucf-ad-refused-2-for-1-offer/ Actual emails says it was. They want true home and home or 1+1 +1 neutral. Thats why it didnt happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Though one of the comments on the article exposes how people don't understand financials very well Yes camping world holds more seats but because it's a neutral site UCF can't keep the same 100% gate like they would at home and they would also have to pay the city of Orlando (the ones who own camping world stadium) in order to rent the facility In the end they make less money holding it at camping world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiagator1 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 48 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Though one of the comments on the article exposes how people don't understand financials very well Yes camping world holds more seats but because it's a neutral site UCF can't keep the same 100% gate like they would at home and they would also have to pay the city of Orlando (the ones who own camping world stadium) in order to rent the facility In the end they make less money holding it at camping world But they were offered a HOME game. 2-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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