The Guru Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Notice how clowns like ECHS05 don't respond with "No, he is elite because of A, B, C...." Why? Because he can't. He has no argument. So the only thing he can do is appeal to authority and say that "some other people think he's elite so there!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, The Guru said: Paid evaluators get this shit wrong all the time. As in every single year they miss on guys. Coaches miss on guys, too. all the time. Yet you never miss on guys! What's your secret? Wait, you are the same clown that said Coach O was a bum about 200 times. Anyways, in my opinion. Evans does not have a violent style of running, but he is an "elite" high school RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RedZone said: Yet you never miss on guys! Something that I've never claimed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RedZone said: Wait, you are the same clown that said Coach O was a bum about 200 times. Yeah, and? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RedZone said: but he is an "elite" high school RB. No, he's not. A player doesn't become elite just because someone rates him as a 5-star just like a team doesn't become elite just because someone ranks them in the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Guru said: Something that I've never claimed. You claimed everyone else misses. Say you miss and you just state your opinion.....say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Guru said: Yeah, and? You were wrong 200 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, RedZone said: You claimed everyone else misses. No, I refuted a claim that since some paid professional said something then it must be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, RedZone said: You were wrong 200 times. I can't wait until 2 years from now when LSU might be 9-4 again and then this reverses. Anybody can make themselves look right in a snapshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, The Guru said: No, he's not. A player doesn't become elite just because someone rates him as a 5-star A player becomes elite when he has "elite" tools and displays them, los.....arguing Evans doesn't is one of your more sillier attempts at being a dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, RedZone said: A player becomes elite when he has "elite" tools and displays them, los.....arguing Evans doesn't is one of your more sillier attempts at being a dumbass. He doesn't have elite tools. I'd even suggest that not one of his single tools is elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Guru said: No, I refuted a claim that since some paid professional said something then it must be true. We got that, we always get that.........You are the KING of the "refute". Who crowned you KING is what we don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Guru said: He doesn't have elite tools. He'd be a 5* at STA too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, The Guru said: He doesn't have elite tools. I'd even suggest that not one of his single tools is elite. So if ECHS would support his assessment that Evans is elite because he has elite tools, would you be good with that? Your only argument that he is not elite is that he doesn't have elite tools. I don't see anything else in the thread that you used to support your opinion. Maybe you have reasons for feeling he is not elite, so go ahead and share those before calling out others for not providing evidence to back up their opinions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Guru said: I can't wait until 2 years from now when LSU might be 9-4 again and then this reverses. Anybody can make themselves look right in a snapshot. So you won't admit you were wrong 200 times, but you instead want to wait 2, 3, or 4 years to possibly have some sort of justification for looking like a dumbass in 2019? That's good stuff.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 I don’t know why folks waste their time with “guru”. There are plenty of evaluations on ZE highlighting his strengths and weaknesses. This thread was started to discuss his off field issues: [Dynamically athletic running back with prototype size and frame potential relative to the position. Owns college-ready build with frame space to add more bulk. Flashes elite athleticism verified in combine testing environment. Makes it look easy, sometimes to the point that it's deceptive. Shows great top-end speed and outstanding close-quarters lateral mobility confirmed by a 3.91 shuttle. Flashes devastating start-stop-start ability in close quarters, coupled with impressive hesitation stutter. Effortlessly strings moves together in the open field to elude multiple defenders. Chameleon in ability to alter running styles, going from elusive darter to hole-punching, straight-line galloper. Home run hitter with high-volume capability. Patient and presses the line of scrimmage to set up blocks. Size and strength potential could provide high ceiling in blitz pickup. At times dances in the backfield rather than accelerating through the hole. Sometimes an upright runner who presents a bigger target. Does not always finish runs with expected strength. Will try to bounce runs too often. Could get on the field immediately at high-major level and become a Power 5 star, in addition to first-round NFL Draft ceiling.] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Usually the top dozen or so are can't miss.. and yes there are exception(s) but not the norm. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Does not always finish runs with expected strength That's what I've seen.......he's not a very violent runner at this stage. I've seen some violent RBs in Louisiana that knocked helmets off of guys and hurt them for trying to tackle them. Animals. Evans checks a lot of boxes though and is still "elite". Not sure if you can teach someone to be violent, but if Evans comes to the SEC he'll get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I don’t know why folks waste their time with “guru”. There are plenty of evaluations on ZE highlighting his strengths and weaknesses. This thread was started to discuss his off field issues: [Dynamically athletic running back with prototype size and frame potential relative to the position. Owns college-ready build with frame space to add more bulk. Flashes elite athleticism verified in combine testing environment. Makes it look easy, sometimes to the point that it's deceptive. Shows great top-end speed and outstanding close-quarters lateral mobility confirmed by a 3.91 shuttle. Flashes devastating start-stop-start ability in close quarters, coupled with impressive hesitation stutter. Effortlessly strings moves together in the open field to elude multiple defenders. Chameleon in ability to alter running styles, going from elusive darter to hole-punching, straight-line galloper. Home run hitter with high-volume capability. Patient and presses the line of scrimmage to set up blocks. Size and strength potential could provide high ceiling in blitz pickup. At times dances in the backfield rather than accelerating through the hole. Sometimes an upright runner who presents a bigger target. Does not always finish runs with expected strength. Will try to bounce runs too often. Could get on the field immediately at high-major level and become a Power 5 star, in addition to first-round NFL Draft ceiling.] Who's the author of this masterpiece?😎 BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RedZone said: That's what I've seen.......he's not a very violent runner at this stage. I've seen some violent RBs in Louisiana that knocked helmets off of guys and hurt them for trying to tackle them. Animals. Evans checks a lot of boxes though and is still "elite". Not sure if you can teach someone to be violent, but if Evans comes to the SEC he'll get a chance. Right now his biggest issue is himself. He won’t get a chance to grow and develop as a RB if he doesn’t fix that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Who's the author of this masterpiece?😎 BGW Gabe Brooks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 I wish folks would cite the "copy and paste". Alas, Christmas has come and gone.... BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: I wish folks would cite the "copy and paste". Alas, Christmas has come and gone.... BGW Gabe Brooks.. thanks, HorseFly. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Gabe Brooks.. thanks, HorseFly. BGW https://mobile.twitter.com/gabrieldbrooks?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: So if ECHS would support his assessment that Evans is elite because he has elite tools, would you be good with that? He won't but it would at least be a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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