181pl Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 I didn't tally in Milliani's FIVE losses to the totals in SJBs OOS opponents' records. Talk about a gauntlet? Do you really have to arrange 5 OOS games to take on opponents with 22 losses? Stay in the neighborhood for that next time 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 My day of giving Sammy grief has now concluded. Please resume your usual worship of CA and CalPreps.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 LETSSS GOOOO BOSCOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, dntn31 said: How far down are STA and Duncanville? Sad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Sammyswordsman said: How far down are STA and Duncanville? Sad Not sure, my phone ran out of battery before I could scroll down that far. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Lots of "Ls" on your phony list.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, 181pl said: Lots of "Ls" on your phony list.... Not if they would have played Lakelands schedule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: The 4 IN teams make that list highly suspect. If you think SJB had a weak OOS schedule, then there's no one to blame but yourself. 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: 15/20 of the above are PGL clients!!! #undefeatedorbust Seems to me that the ongoing efforts of PGL are directly contributing to the increased likelihood of future MNCs that are not undefeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 What a horrible argument 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, mje44 said: What a horrible argument Exactly. Too many guys on here want to reward 16-0 small market teams with MNC or otherwise high rankings at the expense of teams that schedule at or above their ability and take "L"'s 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 4 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Indeed. The polls are now officially on record that a high SOS trumps an unblemished record. Let's see if the scheduling tendencies of some change due to this new phenomena. We just showed you that they don't have a strong SOS, as their marquee opponents shared TWENTY-TWO losses. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 The California logic (or lack thereof) is thick on this board. Almost like TDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, 181pl said: The California logic (or lack thereof) is thick on this board. Almost like TDS. We really don't even need to respond to you since a Calif team is the unanimous MNC. The mainstream polls (by virtue of the final polls) think you are the deranged one. But go ahead and make your case for a better MNC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exocet 98 Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, 181pl said: The California logic (or lack thereof) is thick on this board. Almost like TDS. Â 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 12 hours ago, 181pl said: We just showed you that they don't have a strong SOS, as their marquee opponents shared TWENTY-TWO losses.   Your argument makes no sense. 5 of those losses came from SJB themselves. Then two of those teams played each other (Liberty and Mililani which Mililani won and liberty ended the season winning the state championship ) then you have GC and DM who played each other and GC lost but ended the year winning the championship.  1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, eddiev said: Your argument makes no sense. 5 of those losses came from SJB themselves. Then two of those teams played each other (Liberty and Mililani which Mililani won and liberty ended the season winning the state championship ) then you have GC and DM who played each other and GC lost but ended the year winning the championship.  @181pl has deteriorated into a Lazy poster. Can't be bothered to peel back the data to even the second level. This is why he has been referred back to his local boards for a refresher. We hope to see a much better effort from him, by next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 20 hours ago, dntn31 said: If you think SJB had a weak OOS schedule, then there's no one to blame but yourself. 🤔 Over-rated, (clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)!  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 19 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Too many guys on here want to reward 16-0 small market teams with MNC or otherwise high rankings at the expense of teams that schedule at or above their ability and take "L"'s STA is not that. Try again, Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, The Guru said: STA is not that. Try again, Sam. Correct. Which is why I never argued that STA was a small market team. They are not. @whiteshoes top 100 is littered with small market teams placed way above their pay grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 14 hours ago, 181pl said: We just showed you that they don't have a strong SOS, as their marquee opponents shared TWENTY-TWO losses. This proves that all of sammy's work (and other propagandists) does, indeed, pay off. They've repeated their talking points for long enough that pollsters and the general public have started to buy it. These teams don't actually have to have an impossible schedule. All they have to do is claim that they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Correct. Which is why I never argued that STA was a small market team. They are not. Then what 16-0 small market team are you claiming is demanding a national championship? 👇 19 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Too many guys on here want to reward 16-0 small market teams with MNC  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: @whiteshoes top 100 is littered with small market teams placed way above their pay grade. Right and that hasn't changed for the major polls, either. So all that we got this year was a change in the standard for determining #1. All of the small market 16-0 teams are still getting rewarded with high rankings. A big market 15-0 team got screwed and nothing else changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Guru said: Right and that hasn't changed for the major polls, either. So all that we got this year was a change in the standard for determining #1. All of the small market 16-0 teams are still getting rewarded with high rankings. A big market 15-0 team got screwed and nothing else changed. Not necessarily. The major polls are moving in the right direction pertaining to #1. SOS is carrying much more weight. While STA did indeed play a Large Market schedule, SJB (by virtue of playing MD twice, and avenging the loss) was apparently given the edge. In my very humble opinion, STA could help themselves by doing (3) of the following. 1. Schedule one relevant OOS home game (preferably get lucky by playing a future state champ) 2. Schedule one relevant OOS away game (preferably get lucky by playing a future state champ) 3. Schedule IMG 4. Schedule SFA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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