HSFBfan Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Alabama OSU Clemson Washington Michigan Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Someone deserving is going to get hosed big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 So, if Penn St blows out Wisconsin and Washington/Clemson both win does Ohio St get left out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Omaha Vol said: So, if Penn St blows out Wisconsin and Washington/Clemson both win does Ohio St get left out? Not if Kirk Herbstriet has anything to say about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 29 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Someone deserving is going to get hosed big time. How so? If WASH is left out, it's because of two important reasons. Their non-league schedule was awful and their conference is too. So they wouldn't be deserving. There are more than several teams that would be undefeated or equally have one loss playing the Huskies schedule. 16 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said: So, if Penn St blows out Wisconsin and Washington/Clemson both win does Ohio St get left out? No. Why should they? OSU played a tougher schedule than Penn State and only has 1 loss. Penn State has 2 losses. Things aren't equal wherein the head-to-head and conference title would come into play. Tonight, the chairman of the CFP committee went on record saying that tOSU and PSU are not close to each other. And he's spot on. USC beat Washington convincingly and is one of the hottest teams but they aren't ahead of the Huskies for the same reason. Things aren't equal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Rankings are bogus as usual. They don't rank teams based on how good they are today. They rank them on bad officiating calls, injured players who don't play, coaches that don't coach, etc. (things that happen to teams every week) USC is a completely different team now but have to stay behind a certain amount of teams because of early losses. Its like a status quo that humans have to go by. There's no analysis or understanding of football. Just win you move up, lose you move down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 If Alabama and Clemson win their title games they are locked in. I feel Washington at 4 now is in if they beat Colorado The only thing i can see which would be crazy is Ohio State goes in and the Big 10 Champ jumps Washington. How do you justify a 2 loss Big 10 team jumping a 1 loss Big 10 team who is already ranked higher? So Onio State has to go in. The job is to find the 4 best teams in the country. Ohio State proved they are. Washington with 1 loss should be in over a 2 loss Big 10'champ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 How about this. Bama is in. Clemson loses. Washington loses. Winner of PSU/Wis is in? Mich and OSU in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 If Clemson loses to VT the committee will shit themselves.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: The job is to find the 4 best teams in the country. Ohio State proved they are. Washington with 1 loss should be in over a 2 loss Big 10'champ If you want 4 best teams in the country RIGHT now you would have to take Bama, Ohio St, Michigan, and USC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 The move to expand to 8 teams will probably gain some momentum this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 hour ago, zulu1128 said: The move to expand to 8 teams will probably gain some momentum this year. I really hope not....4 is perfect....there is all this talk because its only a 4 team playoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THS2011 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 They say head to head and whoever wins the champ game matters the most but then they do not apply it to the teams they want in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 7 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: If you want 4 best teams in the country RIGHT now you would have to take Bama, Ohio St, Michigan, and USC. USC is not getting in with 3 losses, not in Pac-12 title game and got stomped by Bama in week one. They are playing very well for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Just now, aZjimbo said: USC is not getting in with 3 losses, not in Pac-12 title game and got stomped by Bama in week one. They are playing very well for sure. I just dont understand how Louisville loses to Kentucky and only drops 2 spots. Florida got spanked by FSU and doesnt move? There was some questionable rankings last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 8 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: If Clemson loses to VT the committee will shit themselves.... That's exactly what I want to happen. Totally crazy especially if Washington also loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: I just dont understand how Louisville loses to Kentucky and only drops 2 spots. Florida got spanked by FSU and doesnt move? There was some questionable rankings last night All subjective. Not the perfect system but better than the past systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Just now, aZjimbo said: All subjective. Not the perfect system but better than the past systems. Would be interesting to see what the polls would look like if it was still the computer system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connman Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Can someone help me out...Penn State is in the big 10 championship game, how do they decide that? By division record or by conference record? And how did they determine the representative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Just now, Connman said: Can someone help me out...Penn State is in the big 10 championship game, how do they decide that? By division record or by conference record? And how did they determine the representative? PSU beat OSU and OSU beat Michigan so basically PSU got in by beating OSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connman Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 But Michigan beat Penn State? I was wondering because all 3 teams were 5-1 in their division but Penn State and Ohio State were 8-1 in conference! If they went by conference record I understand Penn State won the h2h, but do they go by the division record? Then it would of been a 3 way tie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Connman said: But Michigan beat Penn State? I was wondering because all 3 teams were 5-1 in their division but Penn State and Ohio State were 8-1 in conference! If they went by conference record I understand Penn State won the h2h, but do they go by the division record? Then it would of been a 3 way tie? They brought it up on gameday of OSU-Michigan. If OSU beat Michigan and PSU beat MSU then PSU gets in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Connman said: But Michigan beat Penn State? I was wondering because all 3 teams were 5-1 in their division but Penn State and Ohio State were 8-1 in conference! If they went by conference record I understand Penn State won the h2h, but do they go by the division record? Then it would of been a 3 way tie? Overall conference record. It's is the same as in all of the conferences. Penn St got the head to head victory over OSU, so thus they are the division champs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connman Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I understand but my point is if they are determining divisional champs based on unbalanced conference schedules it wouldn't seem right for the committee to give a bonus to conference champions. Penn State finished 8-1 in the Big 10 tied with Ohio State in their division and they won the h2h. Penn State's 3 non-division conference games were way easier than Ohio States. If Penn State had played Wisconsin, Nebraska and Northwestern instead of Iowa, Purdue and Minnesota chances are they could of lost 1 of those games and then Ohio State would be playing in the championship! The same could apply to Michigan! Again we shouldn't penalize a team for not making their conference finals if they do not play the same teams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Connman said: I understand but my point is if they are determining divisional champs based on unbalanced conference schedules it wouldn't seem right for the committee to give a bonus to conference champions. Penn State finished 8-1 in the Big 10 tied with Ohio State in their division and they won the h2h. Penn State's 3 non-division conference games were way easier than Ohio States. If Penn State had played Wisconsin, Nebraska and Northwestern instead of Iowa, Purdue and Minnesota chances are they could of lost 1 of those games and then Ohio State would be playing in the championship! The same could apply to Michigan! Again we shouldn't penalize a team for not making their conference finals if they do not play the same teams! Can only play teams that are on the schedule. Instead of saying PSU doesnt deserve to be there or whatever should OSU have showed up and won the game on the field. OSU controlled their way to the BIG championship. They blew it when they went to PSU and lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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