AztecPadre Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 Just now, Extremely Humble said: Do you realize that these kids have to literally move to Folsom? Let's be honest, Reno isn't that far from Folsom and 99% of the teams in Nevada suck. These kids want to play for a top program where they can get noticed by colleges. Why wouldn't they want to go to Folsom? Great academics and sports programs. What is Folsom supposed to be? Say "No, sorry, you cannot move to Folsom and you are not allowed to play on our football team"? I don't see anything wrong here. Grant and Del Oro, who used to beat the crap out of area teams also have open enrollment and I didn't see every one up arms. Folsom's got a LOT of haters out there. This is so pathetic from the teams complaining in the SFL league. When parents rent a studio apt in folsom with 1 parent staying there and the other parent staying in their REAL home, then its not the same. Alls I'm saying is, either allow transfers for all the schools or "open enrollment" that reaches another state, or not at all. That's it. As for Reno being close to Folsom, I guess it depends on how you define close. Reno is over 2 hours in perfect conditions away from Folsom. Again, I believe its due to the reno express and those 3 years of running up the score to pad the stats, that got the league coaches pissed. I'm guessing, if Richardson had not been hell bent on padding stats and had coached his team to respect the game and opponent, that y'all would not be in this mess. Either way, its not a good look and I do agree that if you can't beat them then get better, but that animosity is there from the league coaches. Just my 2 pesos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, AztecPadre said: When parents rent a studio apt in folsom with 1 parent staying there and the other parent staying in their REAL home, then its not the same. Alls I'm saying is, either allow transfers for all the schools or "open enrollment" that reaches another state, or not at all. That's it. As for Reno being close to Folsom, I guess it depends on how you define close. Reno is over 2 hours in perfect conditions away from Folsom. Again, I believe its due to the reno express and those 3 years of running up the score to pad the stats, that got the league coaches pissed. I'm guessing, if Richardson had not been hell bent on padding stats and had coached his team to respect the game and opponent, that y'all would not be in this mess. Either way, its not a good look and I do agree that if you can't beat them then get better, but that animosity is there from the league coaches. Just my 2 pesos. Fair enough. I agree 2014 was a disgrace and they were just trying to get Browning the national record but this season the coaches have been much better about playing 2nd stringers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 12 hours ago, Extremely Humble said: So much softness in that article lol “Folsom is so good, it’s from a different planet now, completely out of this atmosphere, and teams around here can’t compete, and sometimes it becomes a safety issue because you have teams going up against guys who are major recruits” Wow. I bet his wife runs all over him 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: Wow. I bet his wife runs all over him She gives him the thing his team doesn't have... The D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 16 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Yeah but Folsoms a public school... So are Mission Viejo and CEN10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, bigrobstercraws said: So are Mission Viejo and CEN10 Are you implying that those schools don't get transfers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Extremely Humble said: Are you implying that those schools don't get transfers? LOL Negative, Ghost Rider. Folsom gets some too. Granted not at the sheer volume of So Cal privates and even these publics. On the bright side, Mission does produce more future farmers than the entire midwest. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Extremely Humble said: Grant and Del Oro, who used to beat the crap out of area teams also have open enrollment and I didn't see every one up arms. I don't disagree with your point at all. Just wanted to point out that Grant Union hasn't benefited from open enrollment like say Del Oro and Folsom have. Parents/kids aren't flocking to live in Del Paso Heights no matter how good the program has been. For those that don't know the area, DPH is an older, run down & impoverished community. Close to inner city. Sure, they've had a couple high profile kids transfer in such as Chad Elliott in 1996, but that program has 99.9% been built upon their neighborhood kids. Since Inderkum and Natomas opened in the early 2000's they have drawn and lost kids to/from North Natomas (neighboring area), but that's about the extent of it. They surely aren't drawing kids from the wealthier suburbs, let alone from Reno. Del Oro, on the other hand, has been pulling in talent from all around the foothills for decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPile Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 22 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: So now we find out that the devil benefits from Open enrollment. Uh huh. Evidently Not just your neighborhood public school live MV, as we've been led to believe. Figures. I think that "open enrollment" only pertains to the other schools in the unified district - Vista del Lago and Rancho Cordova. You will note that per the CIF, there are only 5 transfers on the entire roster. The two that I know of Chadron Pierre and Jay Tailor both live in Folsom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPile Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 On 10/5/2018 at 10:58 AM, AztecPadre said: When parents rent a studio apt in folsom with 1 parent staying there and the other parent staying in their REAL home, then its not the same. Alls I'm saying is, either allow transfers for all the schools or "open enrollment" that reaches another state, or not at all. That's it. As for Reno being close to Folsom, I guess it depends on how you define close. Reno is over 2 hours in perfect conditions away from Folsom. Again, I believe its due to the reno express and those 3 years of running up the score to pad the stats, that got the league coaches pissed. I'm guessing, if Richardson had not been hell bent on padding stats and had coached his team to respect the game and opponent, that y'all would not be in this mess. Either way, its not a good look and I do agree that if you can't beat them then get better, but that animosity is there from the league coaches. Just my 2 pesos. I've had three sons go through the program at Folsom, the oldest graduating in 2002, and the last in 2013. My first year coaching in the Jr. Bulldog program was 1997, so I've seen the program grow from ground up. The biggest crybabies in the SFL, Oak Ridge, routinely beat Folsom by 30-40 points, for at least 12 years in a row. OR has a cannon that they shoot for every score, and it used to piss me off hearing the "Kaboom" in the 4th quarter when they were up by 5 TDS. Anyway, changes started coming in or around 2003 with Richardson and Troy Taylor. The Juniors started running the Folsom spread as Mighty Mites (obviously limited), the weight program began in earnest, and kids suddenly aspired to be Bulldogs. The fringe territory kids who chose Oak Ridge (think guys like Austin Collie) began to enroll at Folsom. Richardson should be credited, not criticized. It is not like teams like Granite Bay don;t get players. My youngest played against Cameron Smith, a projected 1st rounder in this year's n NFL draft. The Reno Express does piss the other team's off, but any one of the better teams in the league could have gotten the transfers if the Ngata family decided to move to somewhere besides Folsom in 2011. You can't get a studio apt. in Folsom for less than $1300 - $1400. If these kid's families want to make that commitment/investment in their sons, so be it. The coaches who spoke up in that article should be embarrassed - safety hazard? 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/4/2018 at 10:13 PM, Extremely Humble said: So much softness in that article lol “Folsom is so good, it’s from a different planet now, completely out of this atmosphere, and teams around here can’t compete, and sometimes it becomes a safety issue because you have teams going up against guys who are major recruits” This is pretty much word for word the same argument the East Bay schools made when DLS first went independent 20 years or so ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 hours ago, DogPile said: I've had three sons go through the program at Folsom, the oldest graduating in 2002, and the last in 2013. My first year coaching in the Jr. Bulldog program was 1997, so I've seen the program grow from ground up. The biggest crybabies in the SFL, Oak Ridge, routinely beat Folsom by 30-40 points, for at least 12 years in a row. OR has a cannon that they shoot for every score, and it used to piss me off hearing the "Kaboom" in the 4th quarter when they were up by 5 TDS. Anyway, changes started coming in or around 2003 with Richardson and Troy Taylor. The Juniors started running the Folsom spread as Mighty Mites (obviously limited), the weight program began in earnest, and kids suddenly aspired to be Bulldogs. The fringe territory kids who chose Oak Ridge (think guys like Austin Collie) began to enroll at Folsom. Richardson should be credited, not criticized. It is not like teams like Granite Bay don;t get players. My youngest played against Cameron Smith, a projected 1st rounder in this year's n NFL draft. The Reno Express does piss the other team's off, but any one of the better teams in the league could have gotten the transfers if the Ngata family decided to move to somewhere besides Folsom in 2011. You can't get a studio apt. in Folsom for less than $1300 - $1400. If these kid's families want to make that commitment/investment in their sons, so be it. The coaches who spoke up in that article should be embarrassed - safety hazard? I totally agree with the safety hazard and in another post I said the Folsom has only dominated teams for 3 to 4 years. I agree the coaches are sounding like little bitches, but when folsom runs up scores like when Jake was there, is going to leave the coaches pissed and looking for any way to get back at them. They should not have had starters in the whole game of 60 to 3 type game trying to get Jake some crazy stats. That and the Reno Express is exactly why they are doing this. I'm pretty sure the tipping point was when another Reno kid just became eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, AztecPadre said: I totally agree with the safety hazard My response to the coaches bringing up ‘safety’ as an argument against playing Folsom is, where’s the evidence to support that SFL teams are suffering more injuries after that game than at any other point in the season? Unless they have that evidence, it’s merely a grasping at straws excuse. Additionally, if true, then why are then voluntarily scheduling the likes of DLS and even PAC-5 competition for preseason? (As both Del Oro and Granite Bay have done in recent years). That invalidates Granite Bay’s complaints IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Regarding the Open enrollment debate (for public schools), I posted this on the NorCal site and thought I'd re-post here to see if anyone had any thoughts or if it's even possible: Quote Just a thought. Since I’ve read things such as Open enrollment being bigger and more complicated than sports, what about just eliminating open enrollment for sports participation? Meaning, schools/districts can still have open enrollment to attract students and those interested in proprietary programs outside of sports (e.g., auto, agriculture), but if someone wants to also participate in sports, they have to qualify as if the school/district didn’t have open enrollment. That way the schools/district can still get the kids primarily focused on their academics/programs that want the benefit of a better school or fit, while also weeding out the athletic motivated transfers that don’t qualify within guidelines of enrollment via school boundaries. I’m sure there’s no perfect answer to this. And there will always be loopholes. But I feel the more they can level things, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, ThunderRam said: Regarding the Open enrollment debate (for public schools), I posted this on the NorCal site and thought I'd re-post here to see if anyone had any thoughts or if it's even possible: Or they could just let people go to school where they want to🤷🏽♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: This is America. People do whatever the F they want. 'Rules are for fools' especially when it comes to hsfb. The current #1 team in America has a forfeiture loss for having an illegal player! LOL Its the Wild West in most states with the exception of OH, who's the best at policing in this respect. Thanks for popping in the Folsom thread to reiterate that MD has a loss and SJC should be #1. Appreciate the reminder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ThunderRam said: Regarding the Open enrollment debate (for public schools), I posted this on the NorCal site and thought I'd re-post here to see if anyone had any thoughts or if it's even possible: Yeah agree I’m a proponent of open enrollment, but even for sports. I don’t want anyone telling me where to send my kids and I don’t want to tell someone else how to raise their kids. I support any parents/kids doing what they feel is best for them and their full development. If my kids had to play against a collection of those kids so be it. I taught them to compete and accept a challenge. It’s a different era now! If you can’t beat em....kick em out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: This is America. People do whatever the F they want. 'Rules are for fools' especially when it comes to hsfb. The current #1 team in America has a forfeiture loss for having an illegal player! LOL Its the Wild West in most states with the exception of OH, who's the best at policing in this respect. You sound like an Anti-American Socialist...get out of here with that Communist propaganda comrade 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrepGridiron Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Came across this today: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, PrepGridiron said: Came across this today: Don’t think the DO Twitter guy is a Folsom fan: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 Well at least we know Richardson makes sure his lower level teams are prepped mentally for how he coaches var. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 You know that the blockster is reading this, and absolutely is beside himself trying to figure out a way to respond. 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS350 Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Blueliner said: You know that the blockster is reading this, and absolutely is beside himself trying to figure out a way to respond. 🤣 Oh, Blockhead will be back, it’s only a matter of time. Then how long will it take to out himself is the question. As soon as Folsom is mentioned, the red flag warnings come out. Block alert! Block alert! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 Folsom has played their starters for the 2nd half in two games this whole season. Not folsoms fault they’re miles better than the SJS. And why on earth are we talking about a JV team running up the score? Coming from the Del Oro twitter boy? Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 Meanwhile Centennial scores 77 points in the first half............ Where’s the uproar? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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