OT: HS track

[westbankeagle]

Louisiana currently has 6 kids under 48!

[Texasball]

Looks like it's not just Texasball keeping up with stuff like this.

MileSplit Stats‏ @MileSplitStats 16h16 hours ago

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Over the last five years, Texas has averaged 51 teams under 3:20 in the 4x400 while Florida has averaged 16. Upon adding a curve to account for Texas’ 25% higher population, Florida would have 21 4x400 meter teams under 3:20. @TXMileSplit @flrunners #SlightWork

[Texasball]

right now in the 4x100  - Number of teams who have posted 42.5 or better 

Texas has 75 teams

Florida has 35 teams

Georgia has 23 teams

California has 13 teams -  I figured it out...All the great athletes in Cali are running the 3200m 

[Texasball]

I seen that John Tyler's JV ran 43.47 at the district track meet 4x100 -  don't know if that is their best time of the year or not.

However -  that 43.47 is top 5 in most states.  Against some of the better states it's still pretty good vs Varsity

Tied for 70th in California

#20 in Louisiana

#97 in Georgia

other states like Ill, ark and many others its top 5 

[westbankeagle]

Problem I have with looking solely at relays is it skewed towards bigger schools whereas simple event times are more indicative of the talent/coaching in the state.  For instance, LA has only about 6-8 schools large enough to the size of TX 6A where you would expect the majority of the fast times to come from.  It's just really hard to compare relays because it's not as simple as looking at state population vs results. Talent is more spread out in certain states. LA has very few large schools. I'm not sure about TX or GA in terms of how many 6A size schools they have.

[golfaddict1]

1 hour ago, Texasball said:

Looks like it's not just Texasball keeping up with stuff like this.

MileSplit Stats‏ @MileSplitStats 16h16 hours ago

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Over the last five years, Texas has averaged 51 teams under 3:20 in the 4x400 while Florida has averaged 16. Upon adding a curve to account for Texas’ 25% higher population, Florida would have 21 4x400 meter teams under 3:20. @TXMileSplit @flrunners #SlightWork

They do this each year after the Florida and Texas Relays finish.  Which state is better type articles.   There's no doubt the depth of Texas  with elite times is staggering and the field events also shine vs. FL overall.  

[DevilDog]

54 minutes ago, westbankeagle said:

Problem I have with looking solely at relays is it skewed towards bigger schools whereas simple event times are more indicative of the talent/coaching in the state.  For instance, LA has only about 6-8 schools large enough to the size of TX 6A where you would expect the majority of the fast times to come from.  It's just really hard to compare relays because it's not as simple as looking at state population vs results. Talent is more spread out in certain states. LA has very few large schools. I'm not sure about TX or GA in terms of how many 6A size schools they have.

So if we compare the Texas small 3A -4A or our Privates  to La in the 4x100 then because the La. 5A school are bigger they should be faster.  I think we might be shocked at what it reveals.

 

[golfaddict1]

45 minutes ago, westbankeagle said:

Problem I have with looking solely at relays is it skewed towards bigger schools whereas simple event times are more indicative of the talent/coaching in the state.  For instance, LA has only about 6-8 schools large enough to the size of TX 6A where you would expect the majority of the fast times to come from.  It's just really hard to compare relays because it's not as simple as looking at state population vs results. Talent is more spread out in certain states. LA has very few large schools. I'm not sure about TX or GA in terms of how many 6A size schools they have.

I'll defer to DD and Txball on the smaller school efforts, but I seem to recall one or both bringing up some quality times before.   I think coaching overall (better than FL for sure just like football) is a key factor.  Maybe I'm off here, but if American Heritage Plantation trained with Desoto, TX track coach and team for a week and finished state's I think they'd drop a sub 40 4x100 time no question.   Baton handoff and runup and acceleration of relay sprinter after handoff I think are places where tenths of a second fly off with coaching and getting the best execution.   

[DevilDog]

5 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

I'll defer to DD and Txball on the smaller school efforts, but I seem to recall one or both bringing up some quality times before.   I think coaching overall (better than FL for sure just like football) is a key factor.  Maybe I'm off here, but if American Heritage Plantation trained with Desoto, TX track coach and team for a week and finished state's I think they'd drop a sub 40 4x100 time no question.   Baton handoff and runup and acceleration of relay sprinter after handoff I think are places where tenths of a second fly off with coaching and getting the best execution.   

I agree I think AH hands down should be threatening the 4X100 record.  I also think the 4x100 is indicative of how many fast kids are in a school for instance if those 4 kids at AH or say  Woodlands are running in the 40's imagine how many other kids they have.  I'm willing to bet the next 4-8 kids in those schools would be running in the 42's or lower and it would be a group of them.  We have some JV's running 43's that is elite in every State not named FL, CA, TX, and GA.   Handoffs are huge in Track and Field the Japanese to me have the best stick game at any level in the 4X100 it can men 10ths of seconds.  

East Texas is fast and is mostly schools running with 500<.  You will find that Carthage and Atlanta and LE 4A schools are just as fast as Longview, Lufkin and other 6A Schools.  

[DevilDog]

Here is an example Carthage pound for pound was the best Football team in Texas last year.  They ran against Longview last week.  Carthage would be a top 10 4x100 team in 95% of the Country and they are not the fastest 4A in East Texas.

Longview is like 3-4 classes larger than Carthage.  But they are right there with them and so is 4A Pittsburg.

100 meters

D. Wells, Longview 10.78; J. Davis, Hallsville 10.78; J. Shepherd, Kilgore 10.88; D. Adaway, S. Hill 11.02; R. Garrett, Carthage 11.03; M. Thomas, Pittsburg 11.06; J. Jimmerson, Pittsburg 11.06; A. Hall, Longview 11.16; C. Busch, Pittsburg 11.18; K. Andrews, Pittsburg 11.18

200 meters

A. Hicks, Carthage 21.9; J. Shepherd, Kilgore 21.91; K. Monroe, Longview 22.05; D. Wells, Longview 22.20; J. Hawkins, Longview 22.26; C. Jones, Harmony 22.50; S. Taylor, S. Springs 22.64; T. Craer, H. Springs 22.68; M. Thomas, Pittsburg 22.68; C. Venters, Hallsville 22.79

400 meters

A. Hicks, Carthage 49.5; A. Medford, Tatum 49.63; C. King, H. Springs 50.86; T. Taylor, Longview 50.94; D.J. Turner, P. Pewitt 51.06; H. King, Longview 51.11; Henry, Spring Hill 51.24; C. Venters, Hallsville 51.50; A. McDaniel-Guillory, Longview 51.55; J. Williams, Carthage 51.8

400 relay

Longview 42.01; Carthage 42.7; Pine Tree 43.08; Pittsburg 43.19; Hallsville 43.30; Kilgore 43.32; S. Hill 43.56; Tatum 43:59; Carlisle 43.85; W. Point 44.09

 

[golfaddict1]

Top 5 in HS per athletic.net (coaches submit, so may not be up to date but it's thursday already)  - wind legal only I use. 

 

*  Walton's 45.42 is his PR in a hs meet... his PR is 44.99 running for the Cayman Islands in the Pan American jr worlds last summer.  

110m hurdles 

 

 

 

[DevilDog]

11 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

Top 5 in HS per athletic.net (coaches submit, so may not be up to date but it's thursday already)  - wind legal only I use. 

 

Pretty clear that regardless of School size Fl and Texas are the fastest 2 states in America and no one can argue it like they do football.  The Clock don't lie.  See what CALI #1 L.B. Wilson did in the 4x400 at the Texas Relays along with another top Cali team Dana Hills.  They finished 4th in a event that had the top 3 from Texas in it.  And the were over 2 seconds behind or about 20 meters and 50 meters behind Desoto who has a 3:11:38 on the year and all 3 Texas teams have a faster time thus far.  And one cannot argue School size because Fl and Texas destroy that with fast small schools.

.Mens High School Division II 4x400 Relay

Finals

1.	DeSoto		3:13.92a
	Tairyn Ross, Kennedy Harrison, Angel Deloney, Kevin Modesto
2.	Houston Strake Jesuit		3:14.65a
	Jared Cyprian, Caleb Cavanaugh, Jakobi Robinson, Matthew Boling
3.	Alief Taylor		3:16.76a
	Eric Prier, Shea Whiting, Lavone Brown, Devin Williams
4.	Wilson (Long Beach)		3:18.59a
	Randall Jubilee, Steven Camacho, Andrew Richards, Emari Bennett
5.	Mansfield Timberview		3:19.56a
	Muhammed Nyaoga, Joshua Armstead, Sean Wilson, Slavoski Wright
6.	Mansfield Legacy		3:23.10a
	Cedric Williams, Jared Hopper, Kadeem Burton, Michael Chin
7.	Tyler Lee		3:23.53a
	Daylon Harris, Zaylon Walker, Matt Taylor, Garrett Gowin
8.	Richmond Foster		3:26.09a
	Julian Claiborne, Christopher Cobbin, Collin Williams, Tolulope Badmus
9.	Dana Hills		3:26.35a
	Nathan Fatigate, Max Halvax, Brandon Oswald, Josh Dowdy

 

[golfaddict1]

DD, I'd like to see Cali at season's end compared with TX and FL as well with regards to the events I listed above.  Unless it's the same meet and same race under the same conditions... all we have are times to compare with wind indicator  variances on different tracks and temps and altitude, etc.  

 

[DevilDog]

1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said:

DD, I'd like to see Cali at season's end compared with TX and FL as well with regards to the events I listed above.  Unless it's the same meet and same race under the same conditions... all we have are times to compare with wind indicator  variances on different tracks and temps and altitude, etc.  

 

I agree but they came and ran under the same conditions with their best 4x400 relay team.  No slight on Cali they will have some great times as the season progresses.  They finish up after Texas and Florida and I like how they do their State meet.  Texas due to Regions and only the top 2 advancing to State then the next best time regardless  of Region.  Destroys DFW and East Texas and Houston Schools who would smoke other regional qualifiers.  Cali has a time standard that you can meet and get an invite during the year unless that changed recently. 

[golfaddict1]

DD, we need PrepGridiron Logistics to setup the Penn Relays with elite national 4x100 schools and fill up the lanes 2 thru 7 and give Calabar lane 1.    

[DevilDog]

1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said:

DD, we need PrepGridiron Logistics to setup the Penn Relays with elite national 4x100 schools and fill up the lanes 2 thru 7 and give Calabar lane 1.    

Exactly.  2 Bad Tx and Fl are in their District and area meets at this time going toward State.  Cali especially LB Poly have had to hold it down for the U.S. against those Jamaicans.  We might not beat them but TX and FL would do much better than Sumting Prep and Sumting Catholic NY and NJ put out there every year and Va gets smoked it in as well.  Especially in the 4x400 TX and FL would be right there and would run blazing 4x100's against them.

[golfaddict1]

19 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

Exactly.  2 Bad Tx and Fl are in their District and area meets at this time going toward State.  Cali especially LB Poly have had to hold it down for the U.S. against those Jamaicans.  We might not beat them but TX and FL would do much better than Sumting Prep and Sumting Catholic NY and NJ put out there every year and Va gets smoked it in as well.  Especially in the 4x400 TX and FL would be right there and would run blazing 4x100's against them.

Yea, gunna have to be a special squad from VA/MD/DC area with a team like the Lyles brothers had a few years back or Sydney McLaughlin at a sumting Catholic lol.   Last year, Sydney took the baton in 7th place (last) for the anchor leg of the 4x400 and she passed 3 girls to take 4th.   I think she split 50 and change and beat the 4th and 5th place girls (quality Jamaican girls running anchors) by 4 seconds or so.  

[RedZone]

7 hours ago, DevilDog said:

Here is an example Carthage pound for pound was the best Football team in Texas last year.  They ran against Longview last week.  Carthage would be a top 10 4x100 team in 95% of the Country and they are not the fastest 4A in East Texas.

Longview is like 3-4 classes larger than Carthage.  But they are right there with them and so is 4A Pittsburg.

100 meters

D. Wells, Longview 10.78; J. Davis, Hallsville 10.78; J. Shepherd, Kilgore 10.88; D. Adaway, S. Hill 11.02; R. Garrett, Carthage 11.03; M. Thomas, Pittsburg 11.06; J. Jimmerson, Pittsburg 11.06; A. Hall, Longview 11.16; C. Busch, Pittsburg 11.18; K. Andrews, Pittsburg 11.18

200 meters

A. Hicks, Carthage 21.9; J. Shepherd, Kilgore 21.91; K. Monroe, Longview 22.05; D. Wells, Longview 22.20; J. Hawkins, Longview 22.26; C. Jones, Harmony 22.50; S. Taylor, S. Springs 22.64; T. Craer, H. Springs 22.68; M. Thomas, Pittsburg 22.68; C. Venters, Hallsville 22.79

400 meters

A. Hicks, Carthage 49.5; A. Medford, Tatum 49.63; C. King, H. Springs 50.86; T. Taylor, Longview 50.94; D.J. Turner, P. Pewitt 51.06; H. King, Longview 51.11; Henry, Spring Hill 51.24; C. Venters, Hallsville 51.50; A. McDaniel-Guillory, Longview 51.55; J. Williams, Carthage 51.8

400 relay

Longview 42.01; Carthage 42.7; Pine Tree 43.08; Pittsburg 43.19; Hallsville 43.30; Kilgore 43.32; S. Hill 43.56; Tatum 43:59; Carlisle 43.85; W. Point 44.09

 

Longview sucks at track....at least that event.

Great football program though.

3A West Feliciana, La would "Desoto" that event. 

[RedZone]

3A West Feliciana clocked a 1:25.60 yesterday. Good enough for 8th nationally. They are still improving with just a couple meets left.

8.

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Kam Jackson Darius Davis Davon Harris Derek Turner*

1:25.60

LA

West Feliciana

Apr 04

LHSCA Meet of Champions

[golfaddict1]

http://utsports.com/news/2018/4/4/track-field-xc-vfls-gatlin-coleman-to-pursue-american-record-at-tennessee-relays.aspx

Next Saturday should be interesting.     

[RedZone]

The Top Events To Watch At The Mobile Challenge Of Champions

http://www.milesplit.com/articles/237316/the-top-events-to-watch-at-the-mobile-challenge-of-champions

BOYS 400

The quarter-mile has an intriguing matchup between two of Louisiana's best

• Sean Burrell, Zachary (LA): Burrell is one of the top underclassmen in the country in the 400m. And he's going to get a good matchup here. A year ago, Burrell netted his career best of 46.19 -- 15-year-old class record -- at the Great Southwest Classic, where he went toe-to-toe with Tyrese Cooper, but he also produced two other times under 47 seconds. He's opened his season with three straight efforts under 47 seconds. Burrell will want to go 46-low or even possibly 45 seconds here. 
• Darius Davis, West Feliciana (LA): The senior has posted two straight titles in the 400m -- and one in the 200m -- over the last two seasons and enters with a career best of 46.86. So he and Burrell are going to make quite an early-season matchup in this race. So far, Davis has ripped off times of 49, 48 and 47, so expect him to make another jump here against one of the nation's top underclassmen. 

 

[DevilDog]

https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/meet/328822/results

 

Let's see if Longview suck in Track and how would they fare vs.  La.  They are running in the 11-6A District meet @ Mesquite thru Thursda

They finished 2nd to another Beast Texas Speed squad John Tyler both advancing to Area Meet in 4x100.  Let's see if they suck in Track.  

Ridiculous  Longview does not Suck in Track and is one of the best in Beast Texas. 

Mens Varsity 4x100 Relay District 11-6A Meet Today.  Notice 2 Beast Texas Teams at the Top.  John Tyler would be tied with West Feliciana as the fastest team in La.  Beast Texas can Fly   La is equal to Beast Texas but not really if you list all of Beast Texas vs. La      6 Beast Texas Schools would be top 10 in La. Most are 4A 

Finals of the District.  This is just their district and 3 would be top 14 in La.  They suck so bad that just this District is La. Elite 

1.John Tyler 41.30a  #1 in La. 

2.Longview 42.03a   Asiyas Hall, Jkameron Riggins, Kaden Meridith, Daydrian Wells #4 in La. 

3.North Mesquite 43.11a in #14 in La.

4.Tyler Lee 43.20a  #17 in La. 

 

Where would they rank vs.  Top 4x100 Relay Teams in La. 

1. 41.30 LA West Feliciana Mar 15 

2.-41.36 LA Zachary Mar 15 Red Stick Classic

3. 42.02 LA Karr, Edna Mar 03 CARVER HIGH MEET

4  Longview 42.03a   Asiyas Hall, Jkameron Riggins, Kaden Meridith, Daydrian Wells  Would be the 4th fastest team in LA. 

4. 42.07 LA ScotlandvilleMar 03CARVER HIGH MEET

 LONGVIEW WOULD BE THE 4TH FASTEST 4X100 IN THE WHOLE STATE OF LA. AND .01 FROM 3rd.  BELIEVE ME NEXT WEEK THEY WILL HAVE TO RUN FASTER.  I GUESS THEY DON'T SUCK. 

 

Let's look at the Fastest Lobo in the 100m vs. The State of La.   Wells (Longview would the the 4th fastest kid in the whole State of La.   Yet he is only the 4th fastest in District 11-6A.   10.65 only sucks in Texas and Florida. 

Finals

1. 11 Caleb McMiller 10.41a John Tyler

2.11 Caleb Boger 10.48 a Mesquite

3.12 Davonye Jones10.64 aMesquite Horn

4.12 Daydrian Wells10.65a  PR Longview

La. 100m 

Men

1.12 Trenton Charles *10.53 PR LAScotlandville Apr 04LHSCA Meet of Champions

12 Donovan Rolland10.53 PR (4.5) LA St. Augustine Mar 24 Allstate Sugar Bowl Classic

3.11 Kam Jackson10.56 PR LAWest Feliciana Mar 02West Feliciana Invitational

4.12 Daydrian Wells10.65a  PR Longview 

 4.10 Rodney Johnson 10.69 PR LA Karr, Edna

[DevilDog]

Longview vs. La. 

200 Meters

1.- *Kyeran Monroe 21.74 PR Apr 6 UIL 6A District 11  6th fastest if in the State of La.

 La. top 200m runners

1.10 Sean Burrell 21.44 PR LA Zachary Mar 22 2018 Bat Gourrier Relays

2.12 Donovan Rolland 21.46 PR (2.7) LA St. Augustine Mar 24 Allstate Sugar Bowl Classic

3.10 Rodney Johnson 21.63 PR (1.7) LAKarr, Edna Mar 24 Allstate Sugar Bowl Classic

4.12 Dorian Camel 21.68 LA Scotlandville Mar 09 BATON ROUGE HIGH BULLDOG RELAYS

5.11 Kam Jackson 21.73 PR LAWest Feliciana Mar 09 LA Farm Bureau Insurance Bronco Relays

6.12 Jermie Walker 21.76 PR (1.3 )LA Archbishop Rummel Mar 24

 

4x200

Longview 4x200 Relay  

.*Kyeran Monroe Jacob Johnson Jkameron Riggins Daydrian Wells  1:28.00  #5 in The Whole State of La.  So if they suck in Track what does all this mean.  West Feliciana is Elite in the 4X200 and would still get smoked in Texas.  That fast time would be 8th in Texas.  And they have a great 4x100 who would not be top 10 in Texas with that 41.30. 

 

1.-Kam Jackson Darius Davis Davon Harris Derek Turner  *1:25.60 LA West Feliciana Apr 04 LHSCA Meet of Champions

2.Kelvin Joseph Trenton Charles Nicholas Williams Dorian Camel  *1:26.53 LA Scotlandville Apr 04 LHSCA Meet of Champions

3.-Chandler Whitfield Sean Burrell Xzavyer Carter Kendall Cleveland 1:26.66 LA Zachary Mar 15 Red Stick Classic

4.Deontre Ford Rodney Johnson Tariq Mulmore Fenton Williams1:27.75 LA Karr, Edna Mar 24 Allstate Sugar Bowl Classic

5.Kywune Daniels Kentron White Clarence Bolden Derrick Price 1:28.35 LA Carver Collegiate Mar 03 CARVER HIGH MEET

 

Longview 4X400 VS. La.    They would be the 2nd fastest in the whole State.  Now who in La. would smoke the Lobo's in a Track Meet. 

4x400 Relay
1.		*	Kyeran Monroe Tainique Taylor Jalen Carr Haynes King	3:20.76

 

		Athlete		Mark	ST	Team	Date	Meet
1.		Elden Bontemps Darren Petty Mark Emilien Joseph Taylor		3:19.53	LA	West Jefferson	Mar 24	Allstate Sugar Bowl Classic
2.		Lucas DiResto Ebenezer Aggrey Tyrell Jackson DJ Butler		3:21.25	LA	Catholic BR	Mar 22

[DevilDog]

THIS IS HOW MUCH LONGVIEW SUCKS IN TRACK AND FIELD. THEY WON THE 11-6A DISTRICT MEET TODAY 

https://tylerpaper.com/sports/highschool/john-tyler-boys-place-second-at---a-meet/article_24251b26-3948-11e8-9151-47493fbbf23d.html

MESQUITE — John Tyler placed second behind Longview in the boys division at the District 11-6A Track and Field Meet Thursday night at Hanby Stadium.

JT's Ke'Tavion Humber and Tyler Lee's Haftu Knight won two events to top the Rose City individuals. JT also won both the 4x100 and 4x-200 relays.

John Tyler held a 110-100 lead over Longview late, but Longview won the 4x400-meter relay to rally for the title with 120 points.

4x100 Relay — 1, John Tyler (Kitan Crawford, Ke’Tavion Humber, Michael Givens-Washington, Caleb McMiller), 41.30; 2, Longview (Asiyas Hall, J’Kameron Riggins, Kaden Meridith, Daydrian Wells), 42.03; 3, North Mesquite (Jawuan Clark, Daniel Dunn, Terrius Younger, Azaveshe Daniyan, 43.20), 43.11; 4, Tyler Lee (Daylon Harris, Davion Thompson, Matt Taylor, Garrett Gowin), 43.20.

4x200 Relay — 1, John Tyler (Kitan Crawford, Keandre Ray, Michael Givens-Washington, Dyvione Patterson), 1:27.43; 2, Longview (Kyeran Monroe, Jacob Johnson, J’Kameron Riggins, Daydrian Wells), 1:28.00; 3, Mesquite Horn (Bee Jay Williamson, Justin Vandi, Donovan Payne, Davonye Jones), 1:29.00; 4, Mesquite (Reginald Reese, Robert Davis, Amari McGowan, Jekennan Moore), 1:31.07.

4x400 Relay —1, Longview (Kyeran Monroe, Tainique Taylor, Jalen Carr, Haynes King), 3:20.76; 2, Tyler Lee (Daylon Harris, Zaylon Walker, Matt Taylor, Garrett Gowin), 3:20.97; 3, Mesquite (Kavin Roberts, Xavier Benson, Caleb Boger, Joel Fane), 3:21.69; 4, John Tyler (Devlen Woods, Stephen Brown, Keande Street, Landon Bowie), 3:24.05.

[Texasball]

6 hours ago, RedZone said:

Longview sucks at track....at least that event.

Great football program though.

3A West Feliciana, La would "Desoto" that event. 

Longview just won the district track meet by winning the 4x400